Re: Another system management tool to disappear.

[Doug <dmcgarrett@optonline.net>]

On 08/30/2015 03:33 PM, T.J. Duchene wrote:
> On 08/30/2015 02:44 PM, The Wanderer wrote:
> > On 2015-08-30 at 15:08, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote:
> >
> > > Sadly, considering the effort that has been spent (wasted ?)
> > > developing systemd, the only fix would be to avoid adopting it, or
> > > later to get rid of it completely
> > Not to mention that some of the changes which would be necessary to fix
> > some parts of the design have already been pre-rejected by upstream;
> > they've specifically and explicitly stated that patches to remove the
> > interdependencies among the various components will not be accepted.
>
> I honestly doubt most of the people on this list would attempt to upstream a patch to the systemd project, even if they had one.   If you personally prefer a Linux system sans systemd, it is very possible.

> I know this because I have actually built 95% of base Linux from source by hand - multiple times  -  over the last 17 years. In my opinion, if you don't want to take the effort to do the work, then you simply

> ave to accept other's decisions regarding what they compiled in.
/snip/

That's easy for you to say, since you are obviously a programmer. The rest of us may never have programmed anything, and C just looks like some foreign language --which it is!
What we would like is stability, and until Poettering started messing with Linux, we pretty much had it--at least in any given distro.

--doug