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Re: Change systemd to not be default in Stretch



On Tuesday 23 June 2015 13:40:54 Mark Allums wrote:
> On 06/23/2015 11:45 AM, Don Armstrong wrote:
> > On Mon, 22 Jun 2015, Zebediah C. McClure wrote:
> >> Non-booting system because of race condition in drive mounting.
> > 
> > The ordering of drives by systemd is based on dependencies, and there
> > shouldn't be issues.
> > 
> > But that said, if you've found one, please file a bug with enough
> > details to reproduce it.
> 
> This happens a lot.  Reproducing the problem is hard to do when it
> randomly crops up every 10th boot or so (yes, I need to reboot a lot).
> 
> >> I haven't tracked it down yet but I also have sound problems on my
> >> desktop that only appear when systemd is around,
> > 
> > Sound problems of what kind?
> 
> I too have sound problems.  Mainly no sound on startup, problem started
> during switch to systemd.
> 
> >> systemd is [...] the only package that has caused me any headache.
> > 
> > There certainly have been bugs in systemd, but at least half of the
> > problems you've listed don't appear to be bugs in systemd, but are
> > possibly bugs in some other package.
> 
> We beg to differ.
> 
> > In any event, please file the bugs if you'd like them fixed. Otherwise,
> > no one will know about them and/or fix them.
> 
> How do we file bugs that are so difficult to reproduce?

Mark, 

	I did manage to solve the booting, lvm and mouting issues with systemd 
working. I also managed to fix syslog-ng routing by running both logging 
daemons at once (!), After looking at how systemd was designed I decided not 
to partake just now.

	There is still a debian package for sysv init.  depending on your setup 
you might have some dependency problems, but this fixed my audio, network, and 
tape-block problems in one fell swoop. YMMV.

from without-systemd.org:

apt-get install sysvinit-core sysvinit sysvinit-utils

reboot

apt-get remove --purge --auto-remove systemd

echo -e 'Package: systemd\nPin: origin ""\nPin-Priority: -1' > 
/etc/apt/preferences.d/systemd

echo -e '\n\nPackage: *systemd*\nPin: origin ""\nPin-Priority: -1' >> 
/etc/apt/preferences.d/systemd
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