Re: Nvidia vs AMD open source drivers
On 11/06/2015, Petter Adsen <petter@synth.no> wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Jun 2015 20:02:38 +0200
> Dan <ganchya@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 12:09 PM, Sven Arvidsson <sa@whiz.se> wrote:
>> > On Wed, 2015-06-10 at 04:45 -0400, Ric Moore wrote:
>> >> OK, for some cases ~it works~, but not ~all~ cases. So, enough
>> >> with the warm fuzzies, here's actual benchmark comparison.
>> >>
>> >> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=nvidia_nouveau_utopic&num=1
>> >>
>> >> As of October last year, the nvidia supplied driver runs about 6
>> >> times faster than Nouveau. I run 3 different 3D environment test
>> >> server/clients. Imagine that stretched across 4 monitors via 2
>> >> video cards and still get acceptable performance, with all of the
>> >> bells and whistles turned on. Sweet ...and running under Linux.
>> >>
>> >> And here is a test run 5 days ago, between Intel, AMD and nVidia
>> >> using only libre drivers. For a change AMD ran the wheels off of
>> >> nVidia with Intel slinking in the corner.
>> >> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=phx-open-11&num=1
>> >>
>> >> Last benchmark, comparing video cards with native drivers on
>> >> Linux. This time nVidia mostly ran the wheels off of AMD. Intel
>> >> still ain't equal to either by a long shot.
>> >> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=amdnv-phoronix-11&num=1
>> >> <http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=amdnv-phoronix-11&num=2>
>> >>
>> >> So, in summary, I've always used nvidia as it's the same money as
>> >> AMD and Intel and is generally always faster with the nvidia
>> >> drivers. So, while many will piffle and claim to not be a gamer,
>> >> what about video editing? 3D Immersive education? Think you might
>> >> want to do that at some point in your life?? I'm all about Open
>> >> Source. But, I'm not about deliberate trashing of expensive
>> >> hardware "for the cause". Nor do I recommend it. " Be ALL that you
>> >> can be." :) Ric
>> >
>> > As longs as you don't spend your time staring at benchmarks, the
>> > stuff works and it is getting better all the time. Especially when
>> > people spend their time actually using and supporting it.
>> >
>> > I have no trouble believing that we can use free drivers for pretty
>> > much anything soon. Part of the problem has been that developers are
>> > favouring Nvidia, instead targeting more open standards like OpenCL.
>> >
>> > Sure, there are a few cases, like dual-GPU, multi-screen GL, that's
>> > not supported, and might not be, but those are corner cases.
>> >
>> > If proprietary Nvidia works for you, and if that is the best choice
>> > for the OP, I'm glad it's an option, but we need free drivers, and
>> > for most users it's a very good experience.
>> >
>>
>> Thanks a lot for your answers. I can not use intel because the
>> provider of our company only proposes AMD or NVIDIA for the
>> workstations.
>
> If you use an Intel CPU from recent years, you already have one.
> Discrete Intel graphics cards do not exist.
>
>> I do not need a very fancy graphic card, I need something that works.
>> I will proabably buy AMD as it seems to work well with the open source
>> drivers.
>
> AMD does work very well with the open source radeon driver, at least in
> my experience. It has been very stable, except for a few bugs in early
> 4.x kernels. Make sure you get a card that is well supported. That
> probably means not buying a model that has only very recently hit the
> market, but go for something that has been out a while and is known
> good.
>
> If you don't need much 3D acceleration, something as lowly as a HD5450
> is still a great, stable card for desktop usage that draws little power
> compared to many newer cards. Mine runs a bit hot, but that might be
> because it drives two screens.
>
> Petter
>
And meanwhile, after about a year and a half, I still can't get my
nvidia thing (GEForce GT750M) working with Debian.
After having installed the nvidia manufacturer's driver, it rendered
xwindows inoperable.
I am beginning to regard nvidia as plague-like.
--
Bret Busby
Armadale
West Australia
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