On 20150404_2240+0200, deloptes wrote: > Paul E Condon wrote: > > > This is a place where Debian is really not newbie friendly. > > I think it never aimed to be - therefore you have ubuntu ... at least my > feeling > In the present, Debian relies on Ubuntu, but there are still short passages of text in our web site that remind me of a earlier time. A time before Ubuntu existed. Oh, well ... Best regards, -- Paul E Condon pecondon@mesanetworks.net