Le 30/12/2014 06:04, Gary Dale a écrit : > On 29/12/14 11:59 PM, The Wanderer wrote: >> On 12/29/2014 at 11:48 PM, Gary Dale wrote: >> >>> On 29/12/14 04:27 PM, Raphaël Halimi wrote: >>> >>>> Le 29/12/2014 21:52, Gary Dale a écrit : >>>>> Apparently not. >>>> Wow, very useful answer. Thanks a lot ! >>> Given that most packages are trivially small compared with disk space >>> and memory these days, especially on gaming computers, the question >>> itself is almost pointless. Just pull in the dependency and forget >>> about it. >> It's far from pointless if you're wanting to try to _understand_ what's >> going on and why, which is an eminently reasonable goal and one which >> should be encouraged rather than treated dismissively. >> > I read it as a complaint, not a question. He didn't ask why didn't it, > just shouldn't it. He didn't say it created any problems with his > desktop environment, just frustration that he needed two xterms. 1/ Remember that not all people speak English as their native language. 2/ Although it was indeed a question and not a complaint, I'm trying to build a desktop for non-computer-literate people, used to simple layouts like stock MacOSX, so yeah, having two terminals in the menu _is_ a problem for the goal I'm trying to reach. 3/ Following your logic, I just should have forgotten about the problem (because it _is_ a problem in mate-terminal's packaging, as Sven pointed out) and live with it... I wonder where Debian would be today if everyone treated minor bugs like you do. Indeed, I could just dpkg-divert the desktop file to hide it on the machines I install (that's probably what I'll do if the fix doesn't reach Jessie before the release), but as The Wanderer said, understanding why apt reacts like that was much more interesting, and reporting this kind of minor bugs in packaging, in addition to saving me a little bit of work on future installations, allows to fix the problem not only for Debian, but for all of its downstreams as well (Ubuntu, Mint, Crunchbang, etc etc). Just admit that you didn't really understand the question, and gave a useless and almost rude answer. These things happen, it's no big deal. -- Raphaël Halimi
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