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Re: wordperfect 5.1 for unix, and debian?

On 20/12/14 06:05 PM, Patrick Wiseman wrote:
Sorry, meant to send that to Debian user; will do so now, so ignore
until it arrives that way.

On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 6:04 PM, Patrick Wiseman <pwiseman@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 5:26 PM, Gary Dale <garydale@torfree.net> wrote:
On 20/12/14 03:34 PM, Patrick Wiseman wrote:
On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 3:25 PM, Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> wrote:
On Saturday 20 December 2014 20:05:43 Patrick Wiseman wrote:
On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 2:30 PM, Gary Dale <garydale@torfree.net> wrote:
On 20/12/14 02:15 PM, Doug wrote:
On 12/20/2014 12:17 PM, Gary Dale wrote:
On 17/12/14 11:35 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:
Who said anything about running windows?
The only windows I have are made of glass lol.
Although a virtual dos machine might be interesting if I find
over much  to do  with Linux.
Thanks for the giggle,
OK, but you can set up a UNIX virtual machine. Worst case would be
needing qemu to emulate whatever processor your WP51 version was set

Still don't know what you have against LibreOffice. It's almost
certainly superior to WP51 in every significant way.
At least she doesn't have to worry about "Styles." Most people do not
need a QuarkXpress or MS Publisher, and that's what LO is trying to

Just like those expensive commercial programs, anyone who uses LO (or
OO) will either have to read and learn a lot of instructions or find a

different solution. My solution is TextMaker from SoftMaker, which has
free version for non-commercial use, and which seems to have just

about all the features of the paid version. (I have no pecuniary
interest in SoftMaker, a German firm.)

Funny but I never had to learn about styles. However they are handier
than applying individual attributes to common elements. And while
LibreOffice is quite powerful, it's not Scribus nor Scribus-like by any
stretch. It's just a modern, feature-rich word processor. That means
allowing people to use styles when they want to or ignoring them when
they don't.
By way of example, flush-right-with-dot-leader is trivial in WP8 (the
native WP for Linux), impossible in LibreOffice without a "style"
which is absurdly difficult to create.
What does that mean, and why would one want to do it?
It's often used in tables of contents, with the topic on the left,
dots to the right ........, page number at the far right. And it has
other uses. In WP8, it was achieved with a keyboard combo
(Alt-Shift-F8 if memory serves, which it probably doesn't). Creating a
style in Word, OpenOffice or LibreOffice is, as I said, absurdly
complicated, to do a very simple thing.


That's just a matter of inserting the "." fill character between the topic
name and the page number. You can do it manually by entering the topic name,
tabbing over to the right-aligned page number using "." as the fill
"Just a matter of" doing that? How do I make "." the fill character
for tabs? It's by no means self evident, because I just went through
every menu looking for it. Came across Format, Paragraph, Tabs, Fill
Character, chose '.......', clicked OK, returned to my document,
tabbed and ... nothing. No dots, just blank tabs. So I guess I missed
a non-obvious step.[Libre|Open]Office is one of the least intuitive
programs I have ever used (largely because it follows Word's lead).
Compared with WP, it's total crap.

Perhaps non-obvious is in the eyes of the beholder. The steps are simple:
1) select the entire table,
2) go to format | paragraph | tabs and set the fill character, then
3) define the tab - in this case perhaps right-justified at 6"
4) return to your table of contents and position the cursor before the first page number,
5) hit <tab>,
6) repeat for remaining topics.

I thought it was relatively simple.

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