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Re: If Not Systemd, then What?



On 11/16/2014 10:29 AM, Ansgar Burchardt wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Jerry Stuckle <stucklejerry@gmail.com> writes:
>> The problem here is lack of time and/or skills.  I would love to help,
>> but I already have my plate full.  Additionally, I've done device
>> drivers and applications, but never dealt with init systems.  There
>> would be a big learning curve.  And then there is the politics of being
>> accepted by the DD community.  Maybe some people don't think it's too
>> bad - but I get enough politics in real life that I don't want to deal
>> with it in a volunteer position.
> 
> If you do not have time/skill/motivation to deal with it yourself, there
> is also the option of hiring someone to do the work for you.
>

If I had the money to hire someone, I wouldn't need to work so hard.

> See [1] for a list of people offering services for Debian to start
> with.
> 
>   [1] <https://www.debian.org/consultants/>
> 
>> So why, instead of spending all this time on a new init system didn't
>> developers already familiar with sysvinit work on it?  Systemd wasn't
>> one person alone.
> 
> Presumably nobody was interested enough to do so.
> 

Maybe someone SHOULD have had enough interest.

>>> 1. Reviving the existing init systems. Modernizing them, making them
>>> into true, interchangeable drop-in replacements of each other, which do
>>> the task assigned, and do it well. Each of them accomplishing at least
>>> the common subset of tasks an init system is supposed to provide.
>>
>> That would be great, but it's not going to happen.  The TC has already
>> indicated systemd is going to be the default, and packages are already
>> beginning to require systemd.  I predict more and more packages will
>> require systemd as time goes on.
> 
> It's not going to happen, because...
>

For the reason I stated.

>> This would also be great.  However, who's going to spend the time
>> building these replacements?  Maintaining/upgrading sysvinit is minor
>> compared to this job, and even that couldn't be done.
> 
> ... nobody wants to work on it (at least not for free).
> 
> Ansgar
> 
> 

So why don't YOU work on it?

Jerry



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