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Re: Avoiding SystemD isn't hard



On Wed 22 Oct 2014 at 02:00:34 -0400, Steve Litt wrote:

> On Tue, 21 Oct 2014 19:09:39 -0400
> Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> wrote:
> 
> > Brian wrote:
> > > On Tue 21 Oct 2014 at 15:01:18 -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> > >
> > >> On Tue, 21 Oct 2014 17:19:08 +0200
> > >> Liam Proven <lproven@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> A blog post explaining why it isn't mandatory, the utter futility
> > >>> of the fork and more besides, clearly and simply.
> > >>>
> > >>> http://www.vitavonni.de/blog/201410/2014102101-avoiding-systemd.html
> > >> What I really like about the blog is that, almost from the
> > >> beginning, the author lets us know his agenda with words like
> > >> "trolls". And, just to make his point with his non-cognizant
> > >> readers, he quotes Gregory Smith as just another
> > >> "anti-systemd-troll", instead of as a guy all of the anti-systemd
> > >> people have repudiated and disavowed all alliance with.
> > > Have all the anti-systemd people repudiated Gregory? Here is one who
> > > embraces him as part of the fold:
> > >
> > >    https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2014/10/msg00287.html
> > >
> > >     Gregory, please don't do this. It hurts the credibility of the
> > > entire group who agrees with you 100% on the issues. There are
> > > enough *facts* about systemd, Poettering, Sievers and Redhat to
> > > logically and completely make your point.
> > >
> > > The group "agrees with you 100% ....". Does that look like
> > > "repudiation" and "disavowed all alliance with"?
> > >
> > > It seems more like trying to get someone to toe the Party line.
> > >
> > >
> > 
> > Just for the record, just because someone is a little over-the-top in 
> > his language, doesn't make him wrong.
> > 
> > Miles Fidelman
> 
> I guess that's what I get for /dev/null'ing Brian long before the
> systemd thing ever started (my .procmailrc notes say "Rude boy Brian
> who thinks he's funny"). Anyway, as Brian knows full well if he
> researched my ancient advice to Gregory, about two days later I
> publically repudiated Gregory.

The vast majority of people were able to exercise good, sound judgement
and recognise and dismiss his asinine rants and twisted opinions within
seconds of reading them.


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