Re: Choose your side on the Linux divide
People might find it instructive to read Mark Shuttleworth's offering -
particularly the title: "Losing graciously".
http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1316
Lisi
On Friday 29 August 2014 00:09:44 Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 05:51:13PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> > On Wed, 27 Aug 2014 14:39:56 +0100
> >
> > Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > The OP and a few others are determined to have endless flame wars
> > > about systemd. The OP in particular has started endless "threads" on
> > > this subject.
> > >
> > > Since we cannot stop him, please can't the rest of us just ignore
> > > him? At least the threads will then be short. PLEASE. If you like
> > > Debian, use it. If you don't like it, don't use it. If you want to
> > > fork it, fork it.
> > >
> > > This once super list is becoming a pain,
> >
> > And so, let's put 100% of the blame for the list's becoming a pain on
> > the OP and those who agree with him, and 0% of the people who replaced
> > something that worked, for most of us, with something requiring deep
> > integration not only with system software, but with applications.
> >
> > After all, if you don't walk in lockstep with Lennart Poettering, the
> > guy who brought us PulseAudio and pisses on POSIX, then you must not be
> > a Debian person, and you shouldn't express your opinion!
> >
> > SteveT
> >
> > Steve Litt * http://www.troubleshooters.com/
> > Troubleshooting Training * Human Performance
>
> Steve,
>
> Put in 17 years of working on/with Debian (as I have) then accept that
> most Debian developers use and want the working Debian they have or
> something at least as good.
>
> Accept also that even those who disagree with systemd philosophically
> are still prepared to work within the system to produce the best Debian
> they can - working on things lke how to get all of the architectures
> and the BSD variant kernels to at least co-operate with systemd
>
> Then accept that this Debian is not the only distribution to follow this
> path - and that there are Debian developers who may not agree wtih
> Lennart, are equally good coders but are prepared to come to a
> consensus to produce the distribution you're happy to consume.
>
> If you can't do that, please go away and allow some of us to actually
> carry on using, supporting, developing Debian and sometimes using this
> list for the benefit of others.
>
> Put in 17 or 18 years worth THEN complain.
>
> With respect,
>
> AndyC
>
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