Re: Choose your side on the Linux divide
On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 05:51:13PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Aug 2014 14:39:56 +0100
> Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > The OP and a few others are determined to have endless flame wars
> > about systemd. The OP in particular has started endless "threads" on
> > this subject.
> >
> > Since we cannot stop him, please can't the rest of us just ignore
> > him? At least the threads will then be short. PLEASE. If you like
> > Debian, use it. If you don't like it, don't use it. If you want to
> > fork it, fork it.
> >
> > This once super list is becoming a pain,
>
> And so, let's put 100% of the blame for the list's becoming a pain on
> the OP and those who agree with him, and 0% of the people who replaced
> something that worked, for most of us, with something requiring deep
> integration not only with system software, but with applications.
>
> After all, if you don't walk in lockstep with Lennart Poettering, the
> guy who brought us PulseAudio and pisses on POSIX, then you must not be
> a Debian person, and you shouldn't express your opinion!
>
> SteveT
>
> Steve Litt * http://www.troubleshooters.com/
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>
Steve,
Put in 17 years of working on/with Debian (as I have) then accept that
most Debian developers use and want the working Debian they have or
something at least as good.
Accept also that even those who disagree with systemd philosophically
are still prepared to work within the system to produce the best Debian
they can - working on things lke how to get all of the architectures
and the BSD variant kernels to at least co-operate with systemd
Then accept that this Debian is not the only distribution to follow this
path - and that there are Debian developers who may not agree wtih
Lennart, are equally good coders but are prepared to come to a
consensus to produce the distribution you're happy to consume.
If you can't do that, please go away and allow some of us to actually
carry on using, supporting, developing Debian and sometimes using this
list for the benefit of others.
Put in 17 or 18 years worth THEN complain.
With respect,
AndyC
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