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Re: OT: programming languages

Joe wrote:
On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 12:40:28 -0400
Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> wrote:

Joe wrote:
On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 15:46:58 +0100
Tom Furie <tom@furie.org.uk> wrote:

On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 11:41:57PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:

Programming belongs on any Linux list, especially since a lot of
times you need to code to get things done. Dare you to configure
dwm without coding.
However, there is a difference between discussing code in the
context of a solution to a problem and discussing coding and
langauges in general.

Indeed, but the name of the list is 'debian-user', not 'Debian':
it's about us, not about the OS. A subject is off-topic here if it
is [likely to be] of no concern to Debian users, not merely if it
is not specific to the Debian operating system.

Debian users might well be interested in better ways to administer
and configure their Debian systems, even when such methods are not
applicable *only* to Debian.

And the point was made elsewhere recently that many/most of us are
computer *users*, not developers or full-time administrators. If you
have only time to read one or two technical lists, it makes sense to
read those which are specific to your operating system(s), rather
than pick from hundreds covering various languages, applications and
computer science topics.

Given that Linux in general, and Debian in specific is probably more
frequently used on servers than on desktops, and many who use Debian
are also developers and their own system administrators, I would
suggest that that anyone who installs, administers, develops on,
and/or develops for Debian IS a "debian-user."

I would also suggest that, given that Debian has it's own foibles
when it comes to packaging, file system layout, system services (can
you say systemd?), configuration, and so forth, the details of how
different language environments work, when deployed on Debian, and
perhaps which ones are more commonly used in the Debian environment
can be important topics of discussion (e.g., FAI incorporates shell
and Perl scripts, and seems to be migrating to cfengine).  If one is
planning a new install, that kind of thing might be of interest (it
certainly is to me).

So please... get of your high horse.

Actually, I was the one on the low horse: I was suggesting that all
information of technical interest to users (at whatever level) of the
Debian operating system is on-topic here, regardless of whether it is
unique to Debian. This is contrary to the prevailing ethos.

Sorry Joe. I guess I've just gotten just a little too confused by this thread. (Can't tell the players without a scorecard and all that). ... Miles

In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice.
In practice, there is.   .... Yogi Berra

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