Re: unable to mount removable media with xfce4 version 4.10.1
On Mon, Jun 09, 2014 at 09:01:24AM -0400, Tom H wrote:
> > Allow me to remind you this story:
> >
> > http://lkml.org/lkml/2012/10/3/484
> >
> > The whole mess started once udev (systemd) upstream took the liberty to
> > rewrite udev's firmware loader, and blamed kernel for the resulting
> > breakage. And what was the reason of rewriting said firmware loader?
> > Some part of systemd design.
>
> AIUI it was a good change for udev because boot was previously being
> delayed while waiting for userspace to load firwmware.
Or, it was the change for the sake of change. YMMV.
> Given the hate generally directed at the two main systemd
> developers, submitting a kernel patch like the one that was finally
> written and merged would've been, at the very least, good PR. But some
> people, like Lennart, Kay, and Mark Shuttleworth, seem to be incapable
> of pre-smoothing ruffled feathers.
Wait, wait, wait. It was 2012, back then systemd was not the one and
only pid=1 everyone and their dog used. 'Hate' directed at Lennart - the
guy brought it upon himself with PulseAudio. But 'Hate' directed at Kay
- the relatively unknown udev maintainer? That seems unlikely.
> So it was more of a storm in a teacup than anything else. It just gave
> and gives people who dislike systemd more ammunition for sniping.
No, it was a real problem, giving that said breakage added minutes to
the boot time of poor Fedora users. Still, the problem resolved to
everyone's satisfaction - kernel started loading firmware without
userspace helpers, udev deprectated firmware loading - everyone's happy.
But that's not the point. The point of this story is - udev and systemd
share one upstream, every change made in udev is made because systemd
upstream wants udev to behave systemd special way.
To make myself clear I'd like to add that I have nothing against
systemd.
Reco
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