On 5/20/2014 5:05 PM, David Guntner wrote:
David Guntner grabbed a keyboard and wrote:
Jerry Stuckle grabbed a keyboard and wrote:
Then don't add to the bandwidth with your please to stop. As you've
been told before - just ignore the thread. And if you can't do that,
get a email reader that will.
No. Just because you and a small group of noisy people are too fscking
lazy and inconsiderate to take the topic where it belongs and where it
would be WAY more appropriate is not a reason for everyone else on the
list who is here for the purpose of talking ABOUT THINGS DIRECTLY
RELATED TO DEBIAN to have to make modifications to get your unwanted
cruft out of their mail readers.
The Debian off-topic list exists expressly for the purpose of
discussing
things like this. It's not rocket science, Jerry. Even you should be
able to figure that out. I can't help it that you just don't want to
and think that this list is your personal playground where anything
goes.
Ok, that last bit was a bit insulting, and was uncalled for. I
apologize for that.
Yes, I find you quite insulting.
However, that does not change the fact that you and the other noisy few
who just *have* to drag an off-topic discussion on and on and on and on
to the point where it's not even beating a dead horse any more - the
horse is GLUE at this point - is incredibly inconsiderate to all the
other people on this list who are here for reading and discussion things
that pertain directly to the Debian operating system and its software
package. Which is, after all, the stated purpose of this list. An
Debian Off-Topic list was created specifically for the purpose of
allowing Debian users a place where they can discuss politics, DRM, the
FSF condemning ant-eaters for eating ants, etc. to their heart's
content. People on that list want to discuss, and see discussions, on
all those other subjects.
There seem to be a lot of people contributing to this conversation -
but very few (i.e. ONE) complaining about it.
THIS list is here for the purpose stated above. When you guys keep
going on and on and on about something which is blatantly, patently
off-topic for it, you are, in fact, being extremely rude and
inconsiderate of all those others - many of whom may simply be lurking
to read and learn. When you flood the list with so much noise that the
actual signal starts to be drowned out, you effectively ruin the
usefulness of the list for its intended purpose.
Maybe it's useless to you. Tough.
I've been using the internet since the 80's, and yes, I'm perfectly
capable of kill-filing those topics. If all I was concerned about was
just me, I'd do it. But I want the list to remain useful for others as
well.
In that case I've got you by at least 10 years - I've been on since it
was arpanet in the early 70's. And one thing I've found - which you
SHOULD have been able to figure out by now - not every discussion is
going to be of interest to every person on the mailing list. If
you're not interested in the discussion, killfile it.
On a strictly personal level, face it - I'm on this list because of its
intended purpose. I should not *have* to take steps to filter out
off-topic massive threads that just won't go away - NOBODY should have
to. Some off-topic stuff is always going to happen on any list. It's
just a fact of life that topics will drift a bit every now and then.
But when you know damn-well that you're off topic and someone takes the
time to nudge you about it, telling them "I'm not going to, just filter
it out" is the height of arrogance. What you're saying is that it's way
more important that you use the list any way you want and that people
who want the list used for its intended purpose can just bugger off.
As am I. And if you don't like a discussion, ignore it. That's what
filters are for. And telling someone to take an active conversation
somewhere else because YOU DON'T LIKE IT - now THAT is the HEIGHT OF
ARROGANCE.
I'm not going to continue this particular discussion on list, because I
don't want *this* thread to drag out into Yet Another Off-Topic Thread
That Just Won't Die. If you want to discuss further, feel free to reply
back to me directly. If you feel the burning need to reply to this
on-list, there's not much I can do to stop you. :-) But I won't reply
to anything you say there on the list.
--Dave
Then please don't waste any more bandwidth. You do this every time a
discussion YOU decide is off-topic comes up. And although you've been
told the same by many people, you continue your infantile behavior.
Jerry