On 02/10/2014 12:10 PM, yaro@marupa.net wrote: >> > what happened, or is it just not ready for jessie?? > If you're a KDE user you can find both these games in KPatience. nope, I run MATE.. MATE will be included by default in Jessie.. but I've been running it for a while now in wheezy. -- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux User #367800 and new counter #561587