Re: Goodbye GNOME, Hello XFCE
On Fr, 2013-12-06 at 14:02 +0400, Reco wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 06, 2013 at 10:09:02AM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > GTK is a PITA and will always cause similar warnings,
>
> I disagree. My .xsession-errors does not contain similar warnings.
What DE do you use? It's new to me that there aren't those issues
outside GNOME. There's nothing the other DEs have to fix, the bad design
is from GTK/GNOME.
> > but GTK also does
> > cause really serious issues, if you e.g. launch a GNOME editor with root
> > privileges, the Microsoft like config thingy's privileges change to root
> > and GNOME apps don't work for the user anymore.
>
> That's bad for the unfortunate user indeed. But that's not the GTK+-2
> problem, that's gconf problem (probably combined with misconfigured sudo
> - i.e. without sudo always_set_home).
Issues happen not with Non-Gnome apps, but also when using su for GNOME
apps, so sudo is completely irrelevant. Also completely independent from
the used distro.
> > This are not Xfce, KDE
> > etc. bugs and they are also not Debian related, this is caused by
> > GTK/GNOME upstream's ignorance. GTK and GNOME are crap. Very likely that
> > even GNOME doesn't continue using GTK, LXDE for good reasons switches
> > from GTK to Qt.
>
> GNOME project plans to ditch GTK+-3? That's interesting, to say the
> least. Have you got any proof of that?
No transparency, no official statements, no evidence for it, but if you
run the releases from upstream and not outdated versions from Debian,
you'll notice the evolution of GTK and that it's at a dead end.
Regards,
Ralf
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