Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

[Doug McGarrett <dmcgarrett@optonline.net>]

On 12/02/2013 12:26 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Mon, 2013-12-02 at 11:20 -0600, yaro@marupa.net wrote:
> > On Monday, December 02, 2013 05:56:09 PM Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > > On Mon, 2013-12-02 at 10:27 -0600, yaro@marupa.net wrote:
> > > > On Monday, December 02, 2013 05:14:17 PM Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > > > > On Mon, 02 Dec 2013 15:14:27 +0100, AP <worldwithoutfences@gmail.com>
> > > > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 6:49 PM, Ralf Mardorf
> > > > > >
> > > > > > <ralf.mardorf@alice-dsl.net> wrote:
> > > > > > > I can't remember what I tested a while ago. Perhaps Claws, maybe
> > > > > > > Sylpheed. I'll try _both_ again.
> > > > > > Have all tried Thunderbird?  I am eager to know about it. Is it
> > > > > > excellent?
> > > > > I used it for years, it was and likely is excellent, but not a native
> > > > > Linux app and as already mentioned before, I dislike the Mozilla policy.
> > > > > It's my eccentric, whimsical notion that I don't use Mozillas _if
> > > > > possible_, but I also guess that ... [1]. IOW Mozilla as a MUA for me
> > > > > never ever again. As browser I still use QupZilla and the Tor Browser
> > > > > Bundle quasi based on Mozilla software.
> > > > Why would you say it's not Linux native? Is Thunderbird not compiled for
> > > > Linux? It's not running on Java or Mono or anything, is it? I don't follow
> > > > your logic here.
> > > >
> > > > Do you mean it's not exclusive to Linux? That's true, but why is that a
> > > > bad
> > > > thing?
> > > If you want adapt a Microsoft/Apple policy to Linux, then Mozillas are
> > > perfect. Go and give Google all your private data, don't care about the
> > > freedom to choose a mail format, use mbox (yes, it's UNIX, not
> > > Microsoft, but how often is it used by Linux MUAs?) ... Mozilla software
> > > is excellent regarding to technically aspects, but not regarding to
> > > freedom.
> > I don't see how POP3 or IMAP services are "nonfree" just because you have data
> > on a server somewhere. There might be privacy concerns but those protocols are
> > just as open as mbox is.
> >
> > Perhaps you can elaborate how Mozilla's approach is "nonfree" aside from the
> > trademark issue we already know about.
> You misunderstood my point. There might be nothing bad with using mbox,
> but having the freedom to chose mbox or maldir is the freedom to chose.
> Mozillas nanny you, they chose the mail format for you, the chose Google
> as startpage for you, they make decisions for you. I want to decide on
> my own. I don't need somebody to make decisions for me.
>
> Regards,
> Ralf
Start (Home) Page:
Firefox>Edit>Preferences>General>Home Page
Set it to anything you like. Or nothing.

For Thunderbird--Mail format:
choose font, choose top or bottom reply, choose color,
choose sig, enable spam filters, I can't even name all the
possibilities.

Sacrifice something good and useful to the great god FOSS, again!