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Re: icedove configuration problem



On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 05:30:43PM +0200, François Patte wrote:
> Le 22/08/2013 16:01, Darac Marjal a écrit :
> > On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 08:31:42AM -0500, Joel Diaz wrote:
> >>> 1- I presume that icedove check if my email address is a "valid" address
> >>> (and it is, I use it since almost 20 years at Paris Descartes
> >>> University) in some data bases. As it seems to fail to find it, It
> >>> reject it.... (even using "manual" configuration).
> >>
> >> Hello Francois,
> >>
> >> I believe you are asking how to bypass the automatic configuration that
> >> Icedove attempts to perform? Like you I find this behavior despicable
> >> and something I wanted to avoid. I found out how to make Icedove (and
> >> Thunderbird as well) behave according to my wishes.
> >>
> >> To stop Icedove's auto configuration, just go into offline mode while
> >> setting up the account. File -> Offline -> Work Offline.
> > 
> > The other alternative, especially if you find you're setting up Icedove
> > regularly, is to configure your mail server properly:
> > 
> >   https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Thunderbird/Autoconfiguration#Configuration_server_at_ISP
> > 
> 
> "properly"? are you joking? As far as I can see "properly" means
> "according to the wishes of mozilla"... and you want that every guy in
> charge of the internet services of a company will waste his time to
> configure the mail servers in order to fullfill: "The goal of
> autoconfiguration is to make it very easy for users to configure the
> connection of Thunderbird to their email servers."
> 
> It seems to be funny or stupid!
> 
> Is it so difficult to fill a few lines with the internet address of a
> mail server, name and login id?

# Devil's Advocate
Mail server? Well, I know I'm joe@example.com so... example.com? No,
that doesn't work. Oh, it's mail.example.com... right. IMAP or POP? I
don't know... I guess I'll just pick one. Oh, hell. "Connection
Security"? STARTLS, SSL/TLS... Where's "Secure" or "On" or whatever. Ah!

> 
> And if any user make a mistake? What is the problem? It doesn't work! Is
> it so dangerous!

Potentially, yes. With an autoconfiguration, you can tell the mail
client to use SSL, that the password should be encrypted and so on. The
other alternative is do do something like Google have: a page detailing
how to set up a dozen popular mail clients, telling you to click here,
select that etc. etc.

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