Re: MICROSOFT HIRED THESE PEOPLE TO SABOTAGE OPEN SOURCE
On 04/08/2013 10:07 PM, Joel Roth wrote:
Quite a lot of that image is trollish. I know it's stupid to feed the
troll, but still:
On Mon, Apr 08, 2013 at 04:49:40AM +0000, Dirk wrote:
I wondered about this. Looking at one example: D-Bus,
with which I was minimally acquainted.
D-Bus has replaced Bonobo (originated by the Gnome project) and
DCOP (originated by the KDE project). It seems to have
Clearly the effort is a troll, created by a kid (or childish
adult) with nothing better to do.
1. Complaining about a minor inconvenient feature change (Moving most of
the save functionality into "export" mode. Annoying, but hardly a
dealbreaking move.). Never mind that I find GIMP's new interfact
introduced in 2.8 is a vast improvement over the old UI which had users
having to deal with the window manager wehenever they'd wanna do
something as simple as select the paintbrush tool. GIMP's UI is much
more improved than "ruined." Disagreeing with someone about a feature
change is hardly evidence of a "Microsoft insider."
2. HAL is gone, not worth complaining about. In Linux Udev took ever
everything HAL did after a while. When HAL was "current" it was hardly
bloated and enabled the average user to run a desktop environment
without having to pick their way through lots of configuration and pray
the driver supports what they have. Udev *is* an improvement over HAL,
but I'm not pretending HAL was bad. I don't know what this guy has
against DBus, it's a very effective IPC mechanism and wound up unifying
desktop IPC on Linux, something that was desperately needed, and most
setups I've seen will often not load DBus until something needs it.
GConf I *think* was merely a GNOME construct, so if you're not a GNOME
user you don't have to bother with it. There wasn't really much of a
technical issue with it except it emulates the Windows Registry in
superficial ways. What's wrong with console-kit? Does the person who
made the image have something against desktop-style permissions that can
allow users to mount removable media WITHOUT invoking root privilege?
The guy's complaining about numerous technologies that were pretty much
essential to making Linux a viable desktop platform. Just because you
don't *like* a program doesn't mean it's poison from Microsoft.
3. Since when did a web browser need to be enterprise focused? There's
nothing wrong with a Mozilla developer pointing out there's more market
for end users than anything else in web browsers. And I say this working
in a company that runs on a lot of web technology. Dissent with critics
is a normal part of software development and hardly proof someone works
4. First off, nothing in that image has anything to do with what the guy
says. At any rate, not wanting to contribute to open source gaming
hardly puts someone in Microsoft's employ.
Now this guy is most likely a troll. Otherwise he's one of the more
zealous "free/open source" people who think this sort of thing actually
Now on the more tongue and cheek side. Why not go for the more "obvious"
Microsoft "traps?" If I were to troll I'd go after stuff like Mono,
HyperV drivers in the kernel, Miguel de Icaza, GNOME allegedly trying to
make Linux more like Windows, etc. (I am joking about the
aforementioned. Please don't take me seriously.)