Stan Hoeppner wrote: > Bob Proulx wrote: > > Roland RoLaNd wrote: > >> i have 32 bit lenny running. ( i cannot upgrade) > >> i need to install mysql-server-5.1 amd64 on it. > >> This system is already running l 64 bit kernel. > >> > >> i can't seem to find that package in any current repo so i'm > >> thinking of force installing it using dpkg but i don't know how to > >> solve dependencies (especially libraries) > > > > I recommend that you learn about chroots. Then use 'debootstrap' to > > install a Squeeze chroot on your Lenny system. Install mysql in the > > Squeeze chroot. Run it from there. That will allow you to have a > > Stable Squeeze "system" in the chroot with newer production quality > > code than you can in the host system. > > IIUC, he currently has a 64 bit kernel of unstated origin, with 32 bit > Lenny user space, Yes. > and he's unable to upgrade the user space to 64 bit Lenny. He didn't say he couldn't upgrade to 64-bit. He said he couldn't upgrade. I assumed that meant that he could not upgrade to Squeeze. Lenny mysql is 5.0 with mysql-server-5.1 and that difference distracted me. But you are right. I didn't connect the dots with his request to get mysql amd64 running. I missed that point entirely. Thanks for pointing the point out. > Without more details of that 64 bit kernel, are you sure your advice to > install a 65 bit Squeeze chroot is salient? I may have been accidentally okay. Because if he is running a 64-bit kernel then it should be possible to run a 64-bit userland in a chroot. I am pretty sure that will work okay. Even from a Lenny amd64 kernel to a Squeeze amd64 userland. At the worst it won't work and his current system won't be damaged. > The kernel may be the reason he's unable to upgrade user space to 64 > bit, depending on what was/not built into it. Well... Normally it isn't possible to upgrade from 32-bit to 64-bit. Normally that would be a full system reinstall. However there are reports of people successfully doing it.[1][2][3] But it isn't a normal upgrade. It is an expert sculpting of artwork in place. Originally I thought it was some other reason the he could not upgrade. I have systems myself that I can't upgrade due to binary blobs of dynamically loaded lib.o files. > > Then understand why you cannot upgrade your lenny system. Identify > > the parts that don't want to move. Do the reverse. Build a Lenny > > chroot. Move those problematic components that are holding you back > > into the Lenny chroot. That will free you to upgrade your host system > > to Squeeze and get security upgrades for most of your system. Then > > work to remove those Lenny parts that are stuck. > > It may be a lot less work to simply provide details about the kernel. > He may be able to simply replace it and fix the whole thing in one swing > of the bat. I don't think knowing more about the kernel will help. Especially now that you pointed out the 32-bit userland and wanting a 64-bit mysql. That seems the critical point. Bob [1] http://blog.steve.org.uk/today_i_migrated_from_32_bit_to_64_bit__in_place.html [2] http://users.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/hobbies/debian_arch_up/index.html [3] http://wiki.debian.org/Migrate32To64Bit
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