Re: Removing debian from hdd
On Sat, 07 Jan 2012 13:27:02 -0700, Bob Proulx wrote:
> Camaleón wrote:
(...)
>> > Guido says his goal is to remove Debian from the computer and enable
>> > it to boot without it.
>>
>> That's what I thought but I prefer to have a confirmation for this
>> point.
>
> Guido's words are quite clear.
Not for me and that's what I asked him.
I'm missing some information that can interfer with the proceedings, for
instance:
1/ Is the OP going to install another linux on the system in a future?
2/ Is the OP reaching GRUB's menu?
>> >> You have deleted/formatted your Debian partitions. Fine. Then you
>> >> reinstalled it (? - this was not needed at all).
>> >
>> > Incorrect. It was needed.
>>
>> (...)
>>
>> Not at all. You can do many things to get GRUB removed (fixmbr) or
>> windows booted (using SDG) without needing to install Debian again.
>
> Incorrect.
(...)
Bob, Windows can be booted by many means, as I already told you, so you
don't need to install a linux system to make it bootable again.
> For one at least some MS machines, and I daresay many of them, do not
> include the necessary tools to repair themselves. In which case it is
> not possible to find a working fixmbr program by booting the windows
> system even if you use a 3rd party boot media such as SuperGrubDisk or
> Debian to boot it.
How is that?
SGD can boot windows directly. There are another LiveCD bootloaders that
can do the job (Plop). In addition, you can download any linux LiveCD and
select the option "Boot current installed system". You can run any linux
LiveCD of your choice and restore windows bootloader by using "ms-sys"
utility. You can even install GRUB in a floppy disk and boot windows from
there. You're plenty of options.
> Secondly the problem was that the windows system would not boot without
> some 3rd party boot media.
Of course, but that does not mean the user has to install a full linux
again.
> If you can't use the system then you can't use the system to find out
> that even if you can boot it that the tools needed (fixmbr, bootrec,
> others) are not included there. Using Debian was just one of many
> possible 3rd party boot media options. But it was an available one.
Bob, did you realize the OP sent a message to this mailing list? Which
means he has access to another computer and can work from there to search
for docs and download the things he needs for booting windows ;-)
> Of course there are other options to reinstalling Debian.
Ah, glad to hear that. In fact, that's what I said.
> But if you have no other boot media in your hand but do have a Debian
> install disk in your hand then installing Debian again seems a very
> obvious course of action.
It can be "obvious" for someone (you, the OP?) but not for me. I would
have done another thing and that's why I said installing debian again was
not needed at all, that there are another options to get a bootable
system.
> It often works out well as a rescue disk. You might wish you had
> another more appropriate to the task boot media available but if you
> don't then it doesn't matter. You end up using what you have
> available. It is just another 3rd party boot disk at that point.
It is always a good idea to have a copy of SGD on a CD. I do have it, BTW.
> Were there other options available? Of course there were. The universe
> is filled with a very large number of possibilities.
Well, that's what I said (!?).
> I think what Guido did was perfectly reasonable given the circumstances.
I didn't say Guido did it the wrong way. What makes you think so?
> P.S. I think you meant to say SuperGrubDisk there instead of SDG. Or
> perhaps I mean to say that I have no idea what SDG might be otherwise.
SuperGrubDisk = SGD, if I wrote SDG it was, of course, a typo.
Greetings,
--
Camaleón
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