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Re: DO NOT BUY Western Digital "Green" Drives (also present in WD "Elements" external USB cases)

On Sep 4, 2011 7:53 AM, "D G Teed" <donald.teed@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 4:41 AM, shawn wilson <ag4ve.us@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Sep 4, 2011 3:23 AM, "Miles Bader" <miles@gnu.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > lina <lina.lastname@gmail.com> writes:
>> > > just guess ...  might be wrong, might lots of people coming for WD,
>> > > so the stores only sold WD.
>> >
>> > Dunno, but I've had extremely good experiences with WD drives in the
>> > past, so I'd definitely favor them when I buy a new one...
>> I have absolutely no oppinion. I was merely pointing out that the OP was presenting his oppinion as fact and I thought that pretty messed up.
>> Grented, due to the inciteful the subject was, I'm sure this thread will keep going for at least a week and most of us will remember something bad about WD the next time we go buy a disc. Oh well. The OP probably  got his wish :)
> Well, actually, you have all helped that to happen by broadening the topic.  It wasn't about a brand, but about
> a brand and model type specifically.  This is about Green WD drives, not all WD drives.

My original response was to critisize the OP for sending out such an inflammatory and probably incorrect message. To me, it wasn't about the manufacture or the brand (I'm pretty sure I've got Seagate discs) but about the flawed process that brought about his rant.

> Before buying anything important to you, or something you don't want to buy all over again
> because you are careful with money, you should research the consumer reaction or solicit opinions on it.

This is also true. See, a few years ago linux didn't have drivers for everything and you had to research components or there was a 60% or more chance it won't work. Granted, there shouldn't have ever been any discs that wouldn't work in a system. However researching all other components got me in the mindset to always look before I buy.

Actually, linux is probably the main reason I can't buy anything in a store (besides DVDs, clothes, and groceries and that's literally it) because there's no computer there for me to research what I'm buying and compare prices. Yes I have my phone if I'm in a store but I generally find I don't want to buy that product or at least there, so why bother.

> I researched the green drives from all makers and learned they are engineered to do one thing well: save
> power while in a desktop not in use.  They are not designed for servers, nor even for intense computing
> use like gaming or RAID.  I also noticed consumer backlash on all green drives, and cheaper pricing on
> green drives than any other kind (fire sale at some retailers).  So I did not buy green drives.
> I have used WD blue SATA 1TB drives in a couple of servers with RAID 1 and 
> there is no problem. The most intense server using them is running cyrus mail,
> and horde webmail, for about 3000 mailboxes and probably 500 users
> visiting their mailboxes every day.  The horde webmail on there also serves
> users of another cyrus system with 4000 more active mailboxes on it.
> The system is backed up nightly with EMC networker, and runs
> in a room with air conditioning.  Right now, early on a Sunday morning, the load is
> only .35 and the hard drive internal temperature from smartctl is 37 C.  I imagine
> it does go above 40 when loaded or under full backup duty.


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