On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 06:12:10PM -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: > Robert Holtzman wrote: > > Bob Proulx wrote: > > > It definitely is not on mine. Not on Lenny, Squeeze, nor Sid. I just > > > double checked by doing the tests. Variable settings in .bashrc are > > > not available to GNOME. > > > > I have this in my .bashrc and they work with no problem: > > > > NNTPSERVER='news.sonic.net' && export NNTPSERVER > > BROWSER=firefox/firefox && export BROWSER > > If you are launching something from a shell command line then they > would have those settings. But unless something is configured as > other than default I don't know how they would appear in the X and > GNOME environment. But very likely you already fixed it long ago. :-) A long time ago I learned something: no matter how much you know about linux, every once in a while it rears back and slaps you upside the head to remind you that you still have a looooooong way to go. I just got reminded again. I deleted the FF line from .bashrc. Works fine because FF is the default in Preferences. What was throwing me was that the NNTP server line *was* required. Then it dawned on me that I was calling my news reader (slrn) from the command line. Your sentence quoted above is the key. > > Here is the way I looked for environment variables that GNOME knows > about. I created this following simple script. > > #!/bin/sh > exec >/var/tmp/env.trace.out 2>&1 > echo "============ hello" > env > echo "============ goodbye" > exit 0 > > I put that in my ~/bin/env.dumper file and chmod a+x on it. Then I > right clicked on the GNOME menu bar and clicked "Add to panel..." then > selected "Custom Application Launcher" and then "+Add" and then filled > the path to the script in for the command field. > > With that in place I could test the different environments. Running > it from the command line would of course show all of my shell > variables including those that were set from the .bashrc file. But > running it from GNOME itself through the launcher would not. > > Creating the test script seems a little less crass than adding similar > env dump modifications to /usr/bin/sensible-browser itself. But doing > so there would of course eliminate the extraneous script. I would > move it out of the way and copy it back and then edit the copy. Then > after all of the debug was done I could simply move the original back > into place and it would completely clean up my debug hacking. That's great. I have to try that when I have time to do some experimenting. > > > > So let's say you have GNOME preferences configured so that the web > > > browser will be sensible-browser. In that case it won't get the > > > BROWSER variable setting in .bashrc and then won't launch the desired > > > browser. > > > > If that's true (and I'm not saying it isn't) how to explain the browser > > and nntp lines in my .bashrc working. I still have a hunch I'm > > misunderstanding something. > > I am sure it would all make sense if we knew everything that was > happening. > > > > > > Instead for GNOME > > > > > it appears in /etc/X11/Xsession.d/55gnome-session_gnomerc that you > > > > > need to put settings into ~/.gnomerc instead. I mention this because > > > > > Paul said he was running GNOME. Users running other session managers > > > > > would be better served to use ~/.xsession. > > > > Haven't set up either one of these. Probably won't as long as the > > .bashrc is working. > > I tend to agree that if it isn't broken then don't fix it. But > knowing what is really going on would be comforting. And would > probably help in the future when it does break. I think you nailed it pretty good. -- Bob Holtzman If you think you're getting free lunch, check the price of the beer. Key ID: 8D549279
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