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Re: Does IPv6 preclude use of a NAT gateway?

On 07/12/11 at 12:33pm, Scott Ferguson wrote:
> On 12/07/11 09:42, William Hopkins wrote:
> > On 07/10/11 at 07:20am, Randy Kramer wrote:
> >> On Saturday 09 July 2011 10:22:01 pm William Hopkins wrote:
> >>> On 07/09/11 at 05:14pm, Randy Kramer wrote:
> <snipped>
> > 
> > There are a few issues here.. first and foremost is your desire to 'hide' your
> > computers. There's no reason for that -- currently some ISPs try to make you
> > pay more to run multiple computers, which is wrong. But in IPv6 this
> > restriction *will not* exist, I assure you. Why else would they assign /64s,
> > /56s or /48s ?
> > 
> What you suggest is quite reasonable - regrettably it's not the way of
> telco's that are also ISPs. As this is a public list I'll refrain from
> giving examples (bite the hands that feeds, mmm, nutritious). For a
> shortlist of those that have absolutely no intention of "losing the
> ability to upsell" (unquote) - see the list of major Australian ISPs who
> did not participate in IPV6 day, and as yet have made no preparation for
> dual stacks either.
> At a technical level (as opposed to marketing and sales) it's stated as
> "how to remove the risk of subscribers reselling" - Orwellian newspeak
> for sharing your connection with a housemate.
> I can't speak for the rest of the world but I doubt the scenario is any
> different any where else - if the ISPs can get away something that will
> bring in more revenue, they will. That's why an entry level modem has a
> single port, and sales will try and sell another modem with more ports,
> to be hung off the first modem - rather than a hub - and they will then
> try and sell a more expensive plan to go with it. Yes - you'll be able
> to trivially get around it - but most consumers will just fork out the
> extra dollars for something they already have.

I understand your concern, but I legitimately believe they will be unable to
limit you to a single device when IPv6 is rolled out. As it is, most ISPs in
the US have changed their policy not to penalize clients with home networks.
Even the great offender, Comcast (I fear no corporate reprisal) has adopted
this policy. 

Of course no-one is IPv6 ready, so it will be some time before this becomes
anything other than a theoretical discussion.


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