Re: Debian 5 installation
You think, Cameleon, that I am picky because I think an OS with an automatic
configuration should be able to correctly configure a Nvidia TNT2 video card
with a CMedia sound board. Slackware and Zenwalk do a fine job of it.
Let me say that in one regard you are mistaken You must register first
before using this userlist.
Secondly I don't appreciate you editing my messages! I know it makes you
look great but it aint honest.
You have told me absolutely nothing except to seek help from outside and
it's probably the best piece of advice I have received.
Thank you.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Camaleón" <noelamac@gmail.com>
To: "Debian [en]" <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 9:30 AM
Subject: Re: Debian 5 installation
> El 2010-12-06 a las 08:33 -0000, Harry escribió:
>
> (resending to the list)
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Camaleón" <noelamac@gmail.com>
> > To: <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
> > Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2010 12:59 PM
> > Subject: Re: Debian 5 installation
> >
> >
> > > On Sat, 04 Dec 2010 12:36:20 +0000, Harry Scott wrote:
> > >
> > > > I wanted help to install a nvidia legacy graphics driver for TNT 2
AGP
> > > > so I thought to contact the user lists for guidance. This was not
> > > > possible because:
> > > > 1 When I tried to use evolution after asking permission (used
windows
> > > > mail to confirm) I couldn't move its window up to click on forward.
The
> > > > default vga video setting making the window too large.
> > >
> > > You can post over http.
> > >
> > > > 2 I thought,
> > > > having read the installation instructions, Lenny would note that a
> > > > nvidia driver was needed. Looking at the xorg.conf file it obviously
> > > > couldn't. Configured device was all it said.
> > >
> > > You don't need the nvidia driver, "nv" is the default and should work
> > > just fine.
> > >
> > > > 3 I read the Debian wiki
> > > > after downloading appropriate driver from Nvidia. And downloaded
> > > > nvidia-xconfig the missing piece of the puzzle. I think your help on
the
> > > > installation is ego-centric. Is it possible to get easier
assistance?
> > >
> > > Nothing in linux concerning closed source drivers is "easy" by
definition
> > > >:-)
> > >
> > > I installed nvidia proprietary drivers by following Debian wiki steps:
> > >
> > > http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers
> > >
> > > Just ensure you install the nvidia driver suitable for your card.
> > >
> > > OTOH, I did not install "nvidia-xconfig" package, just edited my
"/etc/
> > > X11/xorg.file" to tell X server to load the nvidia driver instead the
> > > open one:
> > >
> > > ***
> > > Section "Device"
> > > Identifier "Configured Video Device"
> > > Driver "nvidia"
> > > EndSection
> > > ***
>
> > Your reply makes no sense:
> > I had to use Evolution to sign in to this group. Which I did via
windows.
> > Evolution is not able to be set up using vga. Of course Debian could use
> > another emailer but that,s another thing.
>
> First, this mailing list does not require you to sign in order to read
> and post messages. It is open, no subscription needed.
>
> Second, you can post a message over http. In the event you cannot setup
> an e-mail client (like Evolution or Mutt -the latter does not even need
> a GUI-) you can go to Gmane and use their http gateway:
>
> http://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.user
>
> Select the message you want to reply, click over the jump menu "followup",
> and you're done. Not so difficult and very convenient when no MUA
> available.
>
> > You seem to believe in miracles: the xorg.conf controls the setting of
the
> > graphics card and that comes as a contrived piece of software using the
term
> > configured device. To automatically generate an xorg.conf file I had to
> > download nvidia-xconfig or face manually changing it.
>
> Again, I have not installed "nvidia-xconfig" app, it is an optional
> step. And I did it manually. Google is plenty of sites describing the
> lines you have to fill in xorg.conf for your VGA. Heck, even Debian wiki
> tells you how to do it:
>
> http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers#Modifyanexistingxorg.conf
>
> > Since I don't know what drivers are installed that's my point about the
> > "it's all automatic".
>
> You installed "nvidia" driver (or so you said).
>
> But if by "automatic" you mean that the system should have
> auto-configured your "xorg.conf" to use the closed nvidia driver, that
> will no happen. Is the user who has to manually set what driver wants to
> use, at least for now.
>
> > From a developer point of view he knows what's there
> > but this idiot doesn't I'm afraid.
>
> I'm not a developer. I'm a plain user, like you. And when I don't know
> something, I search in Google or ask in mailing lists, like you. What I
> fail to see is which of my words disgusted you.
>
> > I have partially cured the driver problem but I need to fix the range
since
> > it's too great for the monitor and seems to need changing each time I
use
> > it.
>
> By range you mean "screen resolution" or "dpi"? Better if you upload a
> snapshot to www.picpaste.com so we can see the problem.
>
> > Before I do that I have to get sound from my c-media driver.
>
> If you need advice, ask. But no need to be so picky when someone replies
> to your messages. If do not understand something, just ask the user
> what is he/she referring to >:-)
>
> Greetings,
>
> --
> Camaleón
>
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