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Re: Debian 5 installation

El 2010-12-06 a las 08:33 -0000, Harry escribió:

(resending to the list)

> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Camaleón" <noelamac@gmail.com>
> To: <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
> Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2010 12:59 PM
> Subject: Re: Debian 5 installation
> > On Sat, 04 Dec 2010 12:36:20 +0000, Harry Scott wrote:
> >
> > > I wanted help to install a nvidia legacy graphics driver for TNT 2  AGP
> > > so I thought to contact the user lists for guidance. This was not
> > > possible because:
> > > 1 When I tried to use evolution after asking permission (used windows
> > > mail to confirm) I couldn't move its window up to click on forward. The
> > > default vga video setting making the window too large.
> >
> > You can post over http.
> >
> > > 2 I thought,
> > > having read the installation instructions, Lenny would note that a
> > > nvidia driver was needed. Looking at the xorg.conf file it obviously
> > > couldn't. Configured device was all it said.
> >
> > You don't need the nvidia driver, "nv" is the default and should work
> > just fine.
> >
> > > 3 I read the Debian wiki
> > > after downloading appropriate driver from Nvidia. And downloaded
> > > nvidia-xconfig the missing piece of the puzzle. I think your help on the
> > > installation is ego-centric. Is it possible to get easier assistance?
> >
> > Nothing in linux concerning closed source drivers is "easy" by definition
> > >:-)
> >
> > I installed nvidia proprietary drivers by following Debian wiki steps:
> >
> > http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers
> >
> > Just ensure you install the nvidia driver suitable for your card.
> >
> > OTOH, I did not install "nvidia-xconfig" package, just edited my "/etc/
> > X11/xorg.file" to tell X server to load the nvidia driver instead the
> > open one:
> >
> > ***
> > Section "Device"
> > Identifier "Configured Video Device"
> > Driver "nvidia"
> > EndSection
> > ***

> Your reply makes no sense:
> I had to use Evolution to sign in to this group. Which I did via windows.
> Evolution is not able to be set up using vga. Of course Debian could use
> another emailer but that,s another thing.

First, this mailing list does not require you to sign in order to read 
and post messages. It is open, no subscription needed.

Second, you can post a message over http. In the event you cannot setup 
an e-mail client (like Evolution or Mutt -the latter does not even need 
a GUI-) you can go to Gmane and use their http gateway:


Select the message you want to reply, click over the jump menu "followup", 
and you're done. Not so difficult and very convenient when no MUA 

> You seem to believe in miracles: the xorg.conf controls the setting of the
> graphics card and that comes as a contrived piece of software using the term
> configured device. To automatically generate an xorg.conf file I had to
> download nvidia-xconfig or face manually changing it.

Again, I have not installed "nvidia-xconfig" app, it is an optional 
step. And I did it manually. Google is plenty of sites describing the 
lines you have to fill in xorg.conf for your VGA. Heck, even Debian wiki
tells you how to do it:


> Since I don't know what drivers are installed that's my point about the
> "it's all automatic". 

You installed "nvidia" driver (or so you said).

But if by "automatic" you mean that the system should have 
auto-configured your "xorg.conf" to use the closed nvidia driver, that 
will no happen. Is the user who has to manually set what driver wants to 
use, at least for now.

> From a developer point of view he knows what's there
> but this idiot doesn't I'm afraid.

I'm not a developer. I'm a plain user, like you. And when I don't know 
something, I search in Google or ask in mailing lists, like you. What I 
fail to see is which of my words disgusted you.

> I have partially cured the driver problem but I need to fix the range since
> it's too great for the monitor and seems to  need changing each time I use
> it.

By range you mean "screen resolution" or "dpi"? Better if you upload a 
snapshot to www.picpaste.com so we can see the problem.

> Before I do that I have to get sound from my c-media driver.

If you need advice, ask. But no need to be so picky when someone replies 
to your messages. If do not understand something, just ask the user 
what is he/she referring to >:-)



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