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Re: [OT] Re: Toner refill



Ron Johnson put forth on 10/28/2010 2:14 AM:
> On 10/28/2010 01:57 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
>> Camaleón put forth on 10/27/2010 1:05 PM:
>>> There
>>> are also "compatible" toner cartridges at lower prices, which I would
>>> also avoid :-)
>>
>> There is no reason to avoid these Camaleón.  They work just fine.  The
>> only difference is that ZERO of the profit goes to the printer
>> manufacturer.
> 
> Are you a Utopian Socialist?

The cartridge market is basically currently a 3 tier system (if you
ignore the toner refill kit folks):

1.  OEM - Cartridge manufactured/branded for the printer
manufacturer--most expensive option for consumer

2.  Licensed manufacture--same cartridge sold by actual producer under
its own brand with "OEM certification".  Pays a patent tax to printer
manufacturer--2nd most expensive option for consumer

3.  Unrelated 3rd party manufacturer independently designs a cartridge
to work with OEM manufacturer's printer.  Cartridge design is
sufficiently different to avoid patent thread.  Accepts much lower
profit margin in order to sell at a drastically reduced price, drawing
customers--least expensive option, usually less than half the cost of
the OEM cartridge (#1)

This is free market capitalism at its finest.  Competition benefiting
the consumer, even in the face of patents which attempt to discourage
such competition.

And you call me a Socialist?

>> One of the tenets of FOSS is a free or low cost alternative to
>> commercial software.  Why then, as a FOSS advocate, would you tell
>> people to avoid products made by companies who are trying to save
>> consumers money while at the same time providing a quality product?
>>
> 
> What makes Joe's Toner Company so much purer of heart, mind and body
> than HP, Canon, etc?

How did you completely misread what I stated here Ron?  I was LARTing
Camaleón, not putting a third party toner cartridge company on a pedestal.

People pick FOSS not only because it's usually better, but because it is
a lower cost solution, i.e. CHEAPER.  Why then would such a person pay
full retail through the nose for a consumable instead of purchasing the
cheaper alternative that functions identically?

You totally misread my statements, twice.  They were totally clear.  How
did that happen?

-- 
Stan


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