> But at what price: hal comes back in again, after I just got rid of it, and > also consolekit, after I just got rid of that too... > I dunno, all for just a sound... > I suppose that depends on how (and why) you got rid of them. Have you tried installing Pulse Audio, you can control that without the KDE tools. -- Dotan Cohen http://bido.com http://what-is-what.com