In <[🔎] 4fe4c4f50907021215o423b69cdyceea0dd78506d8a3@mail.gmail.com>, ChadDavis wrote: >On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 1:07 PM, Boyd Stephen Smith >Jr.<bss@iguanasuicide.net> wrote: >> In <[🔎] 4fe4c4f50907021030n40b776b8h9a09ce64ecec954f@mail.gmail.com>, >> ChadDavis >> >> wrote: >>>I would be interested in >>>hearing how people doing Java development make use of the Debian >>>shared Java libraries. >> >> I don't think it is much (if any) different from a C developer making >> use of the Debian shared C libraries. > >It seems to me that one of the differences is that the C libraries are >part of the linux platform, if you will, in a way that the Java >libraries are not. Does that make any sense? Nope. 1) Many to most of the C libraries you run on Linux will work on other platforms, particularly UNIX. They aren't tied to Linux. 2) Some to many of the C libraries you run on Linux are not required as part of the LSB -- the only standard for a Linux "system" as opposed to the Linux kernel. Linux isn't tied to them. 3) Virtually none of the C libraries are required for the Linux kernel to run. It will run basically any ELF program as /sbin/init. Even if you want a basic C library (required for running a C program), you have at least 3 to choose from. There's at least on way I can think of to compile a program written in Java to ELF format and have *it* be /sbin/init. Linux is written in C, but it doesn't really favor one language over another at runtime. In any case, the lib*-java packages are not specifically for developers. They are shared dependencies of the Java applications that are part of Debian or are using the Debian build and distribution network (contrib/non- free). Java applications in main with priority optional/extra are just as much part of Debian as a C/C++ application in main with priority optional/extra. I don't know of any packages written in Java that have reached the essential/required/standard priority, but there nothing fundamental keeping any language out of those priorities... just the standard concerns of keeping a minimal Debian system as small as practical. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. bss@iguanasuicide.net ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.net/ \_/
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