Re: Debian 5.0 & 64 bits
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 10:30:24PM +0000, amka wrote:
> Le dimanche 13 décembre 2009 à 01:56 -0600, Mark Allums a écrit :
> > On 12/12/2009 6:32 PM, amka wrote:
> > > I am going to buy a new computer and wonder what is the best for 64bits.
> > > AMD or Intel ?
> > >
> > > Could someone give me please an advice ?
> > >
> > > I have actualy an AMD Opteron and the idea is, for the moment, to buy :
> > >
> > > - CPU AMD Opteron 1356
> > > - Motherboard Tyan Tomcat n3400B (S2925-E)
> > > - Memory Kingston KVR800D2E6K2/4G (2x kit of 2x2GB = 8GB)
> > >
> > > Perhaps somebody have an experience with some of that.
>
> > I guess what I am saying is, look to your application. You did not tell
> > us what you were building this machine for.
>
> Yes, I did not tell. I should, I regret.
>
> I am going to build a Postgresql server, and will execute a lot of perl
> (local) scripts in relation with the database. A lot of read/write in
> large tables (>10'000'000 rows), so I need (several) indexes... which
> have to be updated at each write.
>
> The scripts will have to do a lot of manipulations with datas.
>
>
> So, I want something fine. I took some informations like :
>
> 1.
> For AMD Opteron 1356, look this :
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?nm_mc=AFC-SlickDeals&cm_mmc=AFC-SlickDeals-_-NA-_-NA-_-NA&Item=N82E16819105214
>
> 2.
> Tyan Tomcat n3400B (S2925-E) is recomended by AMD for its largest
> Opterons 1xxx, so will can upgrade :)
> http://www.amd.com/us-en/recmobo/ResultsHandler/1,,3715_15752_15753~68707,00.html
>
> ? Impossible to find the Supermicro MB's. -> ?
>
> An opinion on this Tyan MB :
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813151062&cm_re=n3400b-_-13-151-062-_-Product
> http://alatest.fr/avis/processeurs-et-cartes-meres/tyan-tomcat-n3400b-s2925-e-s2925g2nr-e-motherboard-atx-nforce-pro-3400-socket-am2-udma133-serial-ata-300-raid-2-x-gigabit-ethernet/po3-34673814,53/
>
> 3.
> Kingston KVR800D2E6K2/4G :
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductReview.aspx?Item=N82E16820134936
>
> This is recomended by Kingston for this Tyan MB :
> http://www.ec.kingston.com/ecom/configurator_new/modelsinfo.asp?SysID=50227&mfr=Tyan+Computers&model=Tomcat+n3400B+%28S2925&search_type=&root=uk&LinkBack=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kingston.com%2Fukroot&Sys=50227-Tyan+Computers-Tomcat+n3400B+%28S2925-E%29&distributor=0&submit1=Search
>
> An opinion on this Kingston RAM :
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductReview.aspx?Item=N82E16820134936
>
> But I have simply a doubt... Is the AMD Opteron a good choice ?
> I *presume* it's the best of AMD, and I wonder if Intel would be better.
>
> Regards,
> Amel
>
>
>
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If you want blistering performance for ultra gaming, then others may be
better BUT
I've got an earlier Opteron in an earlier Tyan motherboard available to
me - which has been running more or less 24/7 for three years and
supporting a community of users for a while.
Get good quality memory (possibly ECC memory if you can) and you'll
have a workhorse for a long period of time.
AndyC - who has built servers using cheap motherboards and skimped on
expensive RAID controllers by using Linux software raid :) Software
raid is do-able. Cheap motherboards work for a while then can cause
problems. If I'd buy again, I'd buy Tyan, good quality dual core
Opterons and as much ECC memory as I could fit in.
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