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Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?



2009/6/23 明覺 <shi.minjue@gmail.com>:
> On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 11:28 PM, Boyd Stephen Smith
> Jr.<bss@iguanasuicide.net> wrote:
>> In <[🔎] 20090623111601.GP19607@wasteland.homelinux.net>, Jochen Schulz wrote:
>>>明覺:
>>>> thanks, but before I got the benifit of so many languages, I have been
>>>> tired of learning them, maybe it cannot be called "learning", it's
>>>> just some parallel memory, for none of them bring new concepts to
>>>> C/C++.
>>>
>>>This is plain wrong.
>>>How do you do closures in C/C++?
>>
>> Function-objects. (Examples in STL.)
>>
>>>What about higher
>>>order functions,
>>
>> Function-objects plus tuple types. (Tuple types in latest C++ standard, I
>> think; In Boost anyway.)
>>
>>>pattern matching,
>>
>> That same way it's done it other languages, either statically (in C++ using
>> templates) or slowly and painfully.
>>
>>>dynamic typing?
>>
>> Bah.  As long as the language is strongly typed, I prefer all my types to be
>> static.  Type errors should be detected before run time.  [I'm only willing
>> to let value errors slip until run time so I can accept user input. ;)]
>>
>> Still.  C++ is neither strongly nor dynamically typed, which is quite
>> unfortunate, but are language choices.  In comparision, it would be fairly
>> impossible to "do" weak, static typing in Ruby or Python, too.
>>
>> I don't agree with the OP, though.  Languages like Perl, Python, PHP, and
>> Ruby allow you to trade off (very little) run time or memory for (usually a
>> lot) of man-hours.  CPU cycles and RAM is much cheaper than Labor costs at
>> those ratios, and *all* of those languages have some way of calling into
>> C/C++ for things that just have to be written in those languages.
>>
>> I think the OP need to spend some time with Haskel, Erlang, Prolog, and
>> Lisp.  <tease>Only *then* can you truly learn to *hate* non C-based
>> languages. ;)</tease>
> Thank you, my plan is to first learn C/C++, then learn other
> languages, I learn other languages in order to extract out their
> advantages into C/C++, not for using them, of cause, before I have the
> ability to modify the g++ compilers as I like.

You (uncompromisingly) prefer something you don't even know? And are
(insistently) rejecting things you don't? Is that what you said?

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