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Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?



In <[🔎] 20090623111601.GP19607@wasteland.homelinux.net>, Jochen Schulz wrote:
>明覺:
>> thanks, but before I got the benifit of so many languages, I have been
>> tired of learning them, maybe it cannot be called "learning", it's
>> just some parallel memory, for none of them bring new concepts to
>> C/C++.
>
>This is plain wrong. 
>How do you do closures in C/C++?

Function-objects. (Examples in STL.)

>What about higher
>order functions,

Function-objects plus tuple types. (Tuple types in latest C++ standard, I 
think; In Boost anyway.)

>pattern matching,

That same way it's done it other languages, either statically (in C++ using 
templates) or slowly and painfully.

>dynamic typing?

Bah.  As long as the language is strongly typed, I prefer all my types to be 
static.  Type errors should be detected before run time.  [I'm only willing 
to let value errors slip until run time so I can accept user input. ;)]

Still.  C++ is neither strongly nor dynamically typed, which is quite 
unfortunate, but are language choices.  In comparision, it would be fairly 
impossible to "do" weak, static typing in Ruby or Python, too.

I don't agree with the OP, though.  Languages like Perl, Python, PHP, and 
Ruby allow you to trade off (very little) run time or memory for (usually a 
lot) of man-hours.  CPU cycles and RAM is much cheaper than Labor costs at 
those ratios, and *all* of those languages have some way of calling into 
C/C++ for things that just have to be written in those languages.

I think the OP need to spend some time with Haskel, Erlang, Prolog, and 
Lisp.  <tease>Only *then* can you truly learn to *hate* non C-based 
languages. ;)</tease>
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