Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?
On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 09:41:44 -0700
Hilco Wijbenga <hilco.wijbenga@gmail.com> wrote:
> 2009/6/21 明覺 <shi.minjue@gmail.com>:
> > I want to keep the programs in my system all written in c/c++, no
> > python or perl or any other programming languages, is it possible to
> > reach it? I removed the 2 packages, python and perl, from my system,
> > and of cause, I losed my desktop, is it possible to install a desktop
> > manager without perl and python? which is the proper desktop manager?
By the way, there are a few window managers that don't depends on perl/python,
I double that there are any desktop managers. None of them will run without
Xorg. It's core is mostly c/c++ by the way, the others are probably mostly for
handling setup files and such.
>
> (This is in response to various comments/answers you gave, not just
> this initial email.)
>
> FYI:
> perl: C program
> python: C program
> (ba)sh: C program
> ruby: C program
> sed: C program
> awk: C program
> the list continues...
>
> And have you thought about make, m4, gcc, autotools? They all have/are
> their own "language" that you need to learn. gcc uses Lisp (or
> something like it) internally, are you now no longer going to use a
> compiler? No more make because it requires you to learn its language?
> How are you going to build your code?
>
> What about XML, YAML, HTML, javascript, and such? No more browser? No
> more internet? :-)
That would really free up my day, I think I'll take your offer
>
> On a different note, have you realised just how much you need to know
> before you "know" your whole system? Just the Linux kernel is (2.6.29)
> is 11 million SLOC. Debian 4.0 was a whopping 283 million SLOC. To
> quote some more from
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Source_lines_of_code:
>
> "A similar study was later made of Debian Linux version 2.2 (also
> known as "Potato"); this version of Linux was originally released in
> August 2000. This study found that Debian Linux 2.2 included over 55
> million SLOC, and if developed in a conventional proprietary way would
> have required 14,005 person-years and cost $1.9 billion USD to
> develop."
>
Just wondering where that last 5 came from? ;-) possibly that's for arguing
with people why you languages other than c/c++ ...
> Are you going to live that long? Do you have that much money? (If yes
> to the latter, could you please send a few million my way?) ;-)
I would like to say to both but I would settle for the first for now, the
second I'll take care of in a few thousand years
>
> Please think this through and listen to reason before you waste your life.
>
> Cheers,
> Hilco
>
>
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