In <[🔎] 880dece00905190331s5afdc3d5y72900275bef825d@mail.gmail.com>, Dotan Cohen wrote: >> I also suggested the copying/pasting approach via gnu/screen's mechanism > >it seems that copy-paste is in fact what I am looking for. >I >just figured that this would be common enough to be a part of the >shell itself, Probably mostly for historical reasons, the shell doesn't handle terminal manipulations. In particular, the shell doesn't know that the input you want is 5 rows up and 12 columns over or have any (special) support for moving the cursor to allow you to select something like that. There are a lot of different terminals. Some don't even mix your input with the shell (or other process's) output. A good shell works equally well with any of them. >not something that would require workarounds or hacks. Additional tools are not "workarounds" or "hacks". They are separations of duties/roles which allows a more flexible and robust environment. Unix and Linux come from a culture were providing lots of generalized small tools to the user was found to be more flexible than the alternatives, because it allowed individual users and communities to build very specialized tools without starting entirely from scratch. It's not a problem that cat/sed/grep doesn't know how to convert your MS Word Document to text, it isn't the role of that tool. It's not a problem that LVM doesn't resize the filesystem before/after resizing the LV, it isn't the role of that tool. It's not a problem that your shell doesn't have copy-and-paste, it isn't the role of that tool. Now, it may be that you need higher level tools. That's fine, but don't complain that a spool of copper wire is not a jackhammer. >I >intend to learn screen. AIUI, screen is quite scriptable and should be capable of sending output to the process(es) attached to it. This would allow you to write "screen scripts" that used the shell for what it is good at and used screen for what it is good at. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. bss@iguanasuicide.net ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.net/ \_/
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