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Re: Orphaned packages & libs removal question



Hi,

On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 11:24:52AM -0600, John W Foster wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-02-16 at 01:57 +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote:
> > On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 10:24:50AM -0600, John W Foster wrote:
> > > I want to clean up my system as best I can. I have installed the
> > > gtkorphan and deborphan for this purpose. My question is will these ONLY
> > > remove .deb installed libs. I have several non-debian apps that I use
> > > and do NOT want to remove libs that they require. Any suggestions??
> > 
> > If you are asking question like this, it is not good idea to mix archive
> > unless they are in synch and supported.
> > 
> > http://people.debian.org/~osamu/pub/getwiki/html/ch03.en.html#packagesfrommixesourceofarchives
> > 
> > Osamu
> Thanks Osamu: as usual, your insight is spot on:The system I just
> upgraded to Lenny started out as a woody install some years ago and this
> is my firts effort to streamline the system. May be my last!!!:_)
> 
> I am aware that this is not usually considered a good practice. However
> debian as vast as it is does not provide software that meets all my
> needs. I therefore sometimes either "roll my own" or use pre-compiled
> binaries that are designed to be installed from the basic tarball. An
> example of these is BRL-CAD  and VARKON cad (old .debs). I also use
> script driven apps such as Kompozer, MoneyDance, Gallery2 and the
> tarball setup of Webmin as I prefer them, & with the exception of webmin
> there are currently there are no debian maintainers to make these all
> available, or in some case they are not "free" apps but stuff I pay for.
> They install somes libs each time they are upgraded or installed. 
> My question is more specifically about the capabilities of GTKOrphan and
> deborphan: Do these apps ONLY find orphaned libs from debian packages or
> do they somehow locate libs that are NOT a dependency of a debian
> package. If the latter is the case I can not use these to get rid of the
> 200 or so libs (mostly java) that the deborphan app located. I will have
> to continue doing it by checking individual dependencies of all packages
> from all the sources that I use.

In such case, using aptitude is easiest for checking dependency etc.  At
lease I manage Ubuntu archive key package manually installed survive by
orphaning interactively.

Osamu


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