Re: Backup Image for my needs
On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 12:09:24PM -0700, Nate Duehr wrote:
> Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> >On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 08:42:15PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> >>On 12/17/08 19:51, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> >
> >>>As far as I know, Debian doesn't have an installer feature like
> >>>OpenBSD's where you can boot the installer, set up the disk partitions,
> >>>and run restore right from there (from tape, presumably a raw drive
> >>>partition as well, I don't know).
> >>That's one "large-systems" feature which Linux really misses.
>
> Real large-systems aren't taken off-line or ever restored from that low
> a level, usually.
>
> If they are, it's because there was 8 feet of water in the server room,
> and even then, you probably failed over to your cold-site before it got
> that bad.
>
> If you just had a hardware failure, you're probably already running on
> the warm/hot spare system by the time you look into it.
So, while running on the spare, don't you fix the failure and then have
to restore that box so that it either goes back to being the main box or
now becomes the spare?
> So... you might be thinking "mid-sized" PC-based systems. ;-)
> >Much of the linux culture (the way to do things) seems to be aimed at
> >(developed by?) windows users.
>
> Hahaha... that was the funniest thing I read all day.
I'm thinking things like network-manager and DTEs, the way configs for
things like iceweasel end up in hard-to-figure-out setup files (there
was a recent thread on that topic).
> >Short of getting a job in a
> >"large-systems" shop (not going to happen), do you have any references,
> >hints, etc, on becoming more familiar with large-systems
> >practices/procedures/culture?
>
> Why bother? Go outside, enjoy some sunshine, have a life. If it's cold
> where you are, I hear snowmobiles are fun.
snowmobiles are dangerous, noisy, smelly...
snowshoes are slow and not really efficient in open spaces but great in
tight spots or if you can't ski.
X-country skis are great if you know how and if you have the right
size for conditions and care to spend time waxing.
We're in the middle of a snow squall here and the phone line keeps
konking out. Windchill is -26C.
> There's nothing useful other than self-edification about learning how to
> manage "large systems" unless someone pays you to do it.
Nothing wrong with self-edification and its amazing where you can use
info that was initially learned just for self-edification. Perhaps my
name should be Eddy since I'm so edified.
> (Plus if you want to know what it's REALLY like to manage large or
> complex systems, just cancel all capital expenditures this quarter!
> There's a worldwide economic panic going on amongst the same people who
> screwed it up in the first place, don't you know? No LTO tape drive or
> any of those other toys you mentioned allowed... OKAY... NOW GRIN and
> come up with a backup plan... and welcome to REAL large system's admin!)
Take an inventory of what hardware you _can_ access.
Doug.
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