Re: cannot install all updates
Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 10/23/08 01:53, JoeHill wrote:
> > Ron Johnson wrote:
> >
> >> On 10/23/08 01:25, JoeHill wrote:
> >>> Ron Johnson wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On 10/22/08 23:34, JoeHill wrote:
> >>>>> JoeHill wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Question is, is there some way to find out more info on what packages
> >>>>>> are preventing HAL from being installed? Or _is_ that the question...?
> >>>>>> Not sure.
> >>>>> ...forgot to mention, I did run the 'smart upgrade', but I did not see
> >>>>> what the 'proposed removals' were, which is why I'm concerned.
> >>>> This is why I never use synaptics, but stick with apt-get, the tool
> >>>> that God Intended Us To Use.
> >>>>
> >>>> Besides, it will explicitly tell you what the problem packages are.
> >>> node1:/home/joehill# apt-get upgrade
> >>> Reading package lists... Done
> >>> Building dependency tree
> >>> Reading state information... Done
> >>> The following packages have been kept back:
> >>> hal
> >>> The following packages will be upgraded:
> >>> djvulibre-desktop libapr1 libaudio-dev libaudio2 libdjvulibre21
> >>> libenchant1c2a libhal-dev libhal-storage1 libhal1 libmono-cairo1.0-cil
> >>> libmono-corlib1.0-cil libmono-corlib2.0-cil libmono-data-tds1.0-cil
> >>> libmono-data-tds2.0-cil libmono-i18n1.0-cil libmono-i18n2.0-cil
> >>> libmono-security1.0-cil libmono-security2.0-cil libmono-sharpzip0.84-cil
> >>> libmono-sharpzip2.84-cil libmono-sqlite2.0-cil
> >>> libmono-system-data1.0-cil libmono-system-data2.0-cil
> >>> libmono-system-web1.0-cil libmono-system-web2.0-cil libmono-system1.0-cil
> >>> libmono-system2.0-cil libmono0 libmono1.0-cil libmono2.0-cil libpci3
> >>> libperl5.10 libpq5 mono-common mono-gac mono-jit mono-runtime pciutils
> >>> perl perl-base perl-doc perl-modules screenlets tzdata
> >>> 44 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
> >>>
> >>> I'll accept that you're right about apt-get in general, but it's still not
> >>> telling me why hal is being held back.
> >>>
> >>> I didn't see anything in the manpage to give me more verbose information.
> >>> I'm not saying it's not there, just that I didn't see it ;)
> >> Just try to directly install hal. Then apt will tell you what new
> >> or modified packages also need to be installed
> >
> > Okay, that did it. Now, the question is what to do about things that I think
> > might be important
> >
> > The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer
> > required: libgnomecupsui1.0-1c2a libcamel1.2-8 libgtkhtml3.8-15
> > cupsys-common libgail17 libc-client2002edebian libparted1.7-1 libneon25
> > libportaudio0 libicu36 industrial-cursor-theme libxt-java type-handling
> > libasn1-6-heimdal esound libkrb5-17-heimdal refblas3 libpostproc0d
> > libedata-cal1.2-5 xulrunner-gnome-support libgpod0 gcc-3.4-base libmdbtools
> > libcdio6 libwnck18 guile-1.6-libs libgutenprintui2-1 python-qt3
> > libpoppler0c2 gs-common gdb libegroupwise1.2-10 python-sip4 ttf-opensymbol
> > libecal1.2-6 libxul0d libdirectfb-0.9-25 gnome-keyring-manager
> > libio-zlib-perl liferea-xulrunner libqthreads-12 libflac7 libeel2-2.14
> > iputils-arping libebook1.2-5 libedataserverui1.2-6 gtkhtml3.8 libiw28
> > libedataserver1.2-7 libmozjs0d discover1-data libxklavier10 libgda2-3
> > libavcodec0d libgucharmap4 libpq4 libmyspell3c2 pmount libsnmp9
> > libtotem-plparser1 libservlet2.3-java libxul-common libgda2-common mkisofs
> > libnautilus-burn3 libxp6 libpoppler0c2-glib libroken16-heimdal
> > libguile-ltdl-1 libgssapi4-heimdal libnss3-0d libavahi-core4 libpisync0
> >
> > I'm pretty sure I need a lot of those things to build certain audio and
> > video applications I use. I definitely need mkisofs. Will these be
> > uninstallable afterwards? Or is it just these versions?
>
> It means *only* what it says:
> The following packages were automatically installed
> and are no longer required:
>
> Don't read or infer anything else! They are perfectly, and happily
> installed, and apt-get will *not* uninstall them.
>
> If you want to "tell" apt-get to stop nagging/informing you about
> their "automatic" status, then (counter-intuitively), just "apt-get
> install" them. This won't actually *do* anything except tell apt
> that you really do want these packages.
>
> (Copy-and-paste makes it dirt simple.)
>
> Of course, you could always pick and choose, "installing" the ones
> you know you want, and purging the ones you don't (since you can
> always reinstall them later).
I gotcha. New hal installed, on to the next New Thing.
All the clarification most appreciated.
--
Joe
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