Re: cannot install all updates

[Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@cox.net>]

On 10/23/08 01:53, JoeHill wrote:
> Ron Johnson wrote: 
>
> > On 10/23/08 01:25, JoeHill wrote:
> > > Ron Johnson wrote: 
> > >   
> > > > On 10/22/08 23:34, JoeHill wrote:  
> > > > > JoeHill wrote: 
> > > > >     
> > > > > > Question is, is there some way to find out more info on what packages are
> > > > > > preventing HAL from being installed? Or _is_ that the question...? Not
> > > > > > sure.    
> > > > > ...forgot to mention, I did run the 'smart upgrade', but I did not see
> > > > > what the 'proposed removals' were, which is why I'm concerned.    
> > > > This is why I never use synaptics, but stick with apt-get, the tool 
> > > > that God Intended Us To Use.
> > > >
> > > > Besides, it will explicitly tell you what the problem packages are.  
> > > node1:/home/joehill# apt-get upgrade
> > > Reading package lists... Done
> > > Building dependency tree       
> > > Reading state information... Done
> > > The following packages have been kept back:
> > >   hal
> > > The following packages will be upgraded:
> > >   djvulibre-desktop libapr1 libaudio-dev libaudio2 libdjvulibre21
> > >   libenchant1c2a libhal-dev libhal-storage1 libhal1 libmono-cairo1.0-cil
> > >   libmono-corlib1.0-cil libmono-corlib2.0-cil libmono-data-tds1.0-cil
> > >   libmono-data-tds2.0-cil libmono-i18n1.0-cil libmono-i18n2.0-cil
> > >   libmono-security1.0-cil libmono-security2.0-cil libmono-sharpzip0.84-cil
> > >   libmono-sharpzip2.84-cil libmono-sqlite2.0-cil libmono-system-data1.0-cil
> > >   libmono-system-data2.0-cil libmono-system-web1.0-cil
> > >   libmono-system-web2.0-cil libmono-system1.0-cil libmono-system2.0-cil
> > >   libmono0 libmono1.0-cil libmono2.0-cil libpci3 libperl5.10 libpq5
> > >   mono-common mono-gac mono-jit mono-runtime pciutils perl perl-base
> > > perl-doc perl-modules screenlets tzdata
> > > 44 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
> > >
> > > I'll accept that you're right about apt-get in general, but it's still not
> > > telling me why hal is being held back.
> > >
> > > I didn't see anything in the manpage to give me more verbose information.
> > > I'm not saying it's not there, just that I didn't see it ;)  
> > Just try to directly install hal.  Then apt will tell you what new 
> > or modified packages also need to be installed
>
> Okay, that did it. Now, the question is what to do about things that I think
> might be important
>
> The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
>   libgnomecupsui1.0-1c2a libcamel1.2-8 libgtkhtml3.8-15 cupsys-common
>   libgail17 libc-client2002edebian libparted1.7-1 libneon25 libportaudio0
>   libicu36 industrial-cursor-theme libxt-java type-handling libasn1-6-heimdal
>   esound libkrb5-17-heimdal refblas3 libpostproc0d libedata-cal1.2-5
>   xulrunner-gnome-support libgpod0 gcc-3.4-base libmdbtools libcdio6 libwnck18
>   guile-1.6-libs libgutenprintui2-1 python-qt3 libpoppler0c2 gs-common gdb
>   libegroupwise1.2-10 python-sip4 ttf-opensymbol libecal1.2-6 libxul0d
>   libdirectfb-0.9-25 gnome-keyring-manager libio-zlib-perl liferea-xulrunner
>   libqthreads-12 libflac7 libeel2-2.14 iputils-arping libebook1.2-5
>   libedataserverui1.2-6 gtkhtml3.8 libiw28 libedataserver1.2-7 libmozjs0d
>   discover1-data libxklavier10 libgda2-3 libavcodec0d libgucharmap4 libpq4
>   libmyspell3c2 pmount libsnmp9 libtotem-plparser1 libservlet2.3-java
>   libxul-common libgda2-common mkisofs libnautilus-burn3 libxp6
>   libpoppler0c2-glib libroken16-heimdal libguile-ltdl-1 libgssapi4-heimdal
>   libnss3-0d libavahi-core4 libpisync0
>
> I'm pretty sure I need a lot of those things to build certain audio and video
> applications I use. I definitely need mkisofs. Will these be uninstallable
> afterwards? Or is it just these versions?

It means *only* what it says:
    The following packages were automatically installed
    and are no longer required:

Don't read or infer anything else!  They are perfectly, and happily 
installed, and apt-get will *not* uninstall them.

If you want to "tell" apt-get to stop nagging/informing you about 
their "automatic" status, then (counter-intuitively), just "apt-get 
install" them.  This won't actually *do* anything except tell apt 
that you really do want these packages.

(Copy-and-paste makes it dirt simple.)

Of course, you could always pick and choose, "installing" the ones 
you know you want, and purging the ones you don't (since you can 
always reinstall them later).

--
Ron Johnson, Jr.
Jefferson LA  USA

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