Hello,
Thanks for all the answers :)
I am trying to answer to all of them at once...
Here my initial posting:
The temporary solution seems to be, as Daniel, Magnus and HS proposed,
> Since weeks I can't update debian sid as apt-get always wants to
> remove gnome:
>
> apt-get dist-upgrade
> [...]
> The following packages will be REMOVED:
> epiphany-extensions fast-user-switch-applet gnome
> gnome-desktop-environment gnome-system-tools k3b libavcodeccvs51
> libavdevicecvs52 libavformatcvs52 libavutilcvs49 liboobs-1-3
> libpostproccvs51 libswscalecvs0 libuim5 scim-uim
> [...]
>
> As I couldn't find any mails from other users about this problem, I
> finally wonder if there is something wrong with my system.
>
> Should I continue to wait for some more weeks until finally gnome can
> be updated again or is there some better way to proceed?
to use aptitude rather than apt-get or synaptic.
The following sequence updated most of my system:
aptitude -s full-upgrade
aptitude update
aptitude safe-upgrade
aptitude full-upgrade
Concerning the latter command, I followed the advice of HS:
and only accepted a partial solution.
Aptitude usually tells you what is broken and what is the suggested
resolution. If you do not accept the suggestion, it gives you
another different one and so on until you accept one or just quit
the upgrade.
Aptitude still doesn't know about any final solution and still wants to:
Remove the following packages:
fast-user-switch-appletwhich I am rejecting.
gnome
gnome-desktop-environment
gnome-system-tools
This update / upgrade procedure removed the kde meta package which, as
Tom pointed out, didn't "hurt too much as it won't remove anything
except the meta package itself". Also I am currently mostly using
gnome anyway.
Even if my system is in a somehow inconsistent state now, I can live
with this situation until the problem is solved and a new version of
gnome and kde can be installed. The most important thing is that I
still can update the rest of my system. In Joe's words:
and also:
some of the time, the sid repositories are in an inconsistent state,
and a bit of patience is required. Looking at the current rate of
updates, about 70MB a day for my 2200 packages, this is not entirely
surprising.
so that's a matter of waiting
Concerning aptitude vs. apt-get / synaptic, Daniel said:As the problem seems to concern all people using gnome on debian sid
The algorithms used to solve dependencies are different, so
sometimes they'll produce different results. aptitude has more
facilities for showing why it's doing what it's doing, which is why
I suggested it.
(Daniel: [...] broken gnome-system-tools [...] broken kdenetwork
[...]), but still I couldn't find other postings about the problem, I
suppose that most of the people using debian sid rather use aptitude
than apt-get or synaptic to update their system and do not mind
packages listed as broken too much :)
To cite Daniel again:
I am happy to wait :)
So, these are the dependencies it's trying to resolve. The big
problems for you are probably the broken gnome-system-tools (which
is required by gnome-desktop-environment) and the broken kdenetwork
(which is part of kde). In the case of kdenetwork, you can't
upgrade it until kde is rebuilt for your architecture -- according
to packages.debian.org, packages like dcoprss are only at 4:3.5.9-2
on amd64, hppa, and ia64 so far.
gnome is broken because gnome-desktop-environment depends on
gnome-system-tools, which depends on both system-tools-backends and
liboobs-1-3; however, the new version of system-tools-backends
conflicts with liboobs-1-3. So the version of gnome in sid just
can't be installed at all, ever.
In other words, neither of these packages can be upgraded right now.
Thank you all for your help,
Dietrich
PS:
Thanks to Ron for teaching me about: apt-show-versions -u | sort
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