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Re: debian sid & gnome



Hi Daniel,

On Wed, 2008-06-11 at 21:21 -0700, Daniel Burrows wrote: 
> On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 11:31:16AM +0900, Dietrich Bollmann <diresu@web.de> was heard to say:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > Since weeks I can't update debian sid as apt-get always wants to remove
> > gnome:
> > 
> >   apt-get dist-upgrade
> >   [...]
> >   The following packages will be REMOVED:
> >   epiphany-extensions fast-user-switch-applet gnome
> >   gnome-desktop-environment gnome-system-tools k3b libavcodeccvs51
> >   libavdevicecvs52 libavformatcvs52 libavutilcvs49 liboobs-1-3
> >   libpostproccvs51 libswscalecvs0 libuim5 scim-uim
> >   [...]
> > 
> > As I couldn't find any mails from other users about this problem, I
> > finally wonder if there is something wrong with my system.
> > 
> > Should I continue to wait for some more weeks until finally gnome can be
> > updated again or is there some better way to proceed?
> 
>   What do you get if you run "aptitude -s full-upgrade"?  (this won't
> modify your system at all)  If it suggests removing packages to solve
> dependencies, enter "o" at the prompt to find out why.

A strangely different result:

  - it complains about gnome being broken
  - it doesn't want to remove gnome this time - but kde.
    (... apt-get didn't complain about kde at all...)

How can it be possible that two tools trying to do the same thing 
propose so much differing solutions?

I am not using kde for the moment - and wouldn't mind to deinstall it
if only I could be sure that the system still continues to work after
the update...

What do you think should I do?

Thanks, Dietrich
    
PS: I appended the output of 'aptitude -s full-upgrade' :

> 
>   Daniel

Here the output of:  aptitude -s full-upgrade


Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Reading extended state information      
Initializing package states... Done
Reading task descriptions... Done  
The following packages are BROKEN:
  gnome k3b kdenetwork scim-uim system-tools-backends 
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  acroread-dictionary-en{a} acroread-l10n-en{a} cpp-4.3{a} cups{a}
cups-client{a} cups-common{a} cups-dbg{a} g++-4.3{a} gcc-4.3{a} 
  grhino{a} libavahi-ui0{a} libavcodec51{a} libavdevice52{a}
libavformat52{a} libavutil49{a} libbind9-40{a} libcap2{a} libcups2{a} 
  libcups2-dev{a} libdc1394-22{a} libdns42{a} libepc-1.0-1{a}
libepc-ui-1.0-1{a} libgtk-vnc-1.0-0{a} libgtk2-imageview-perl{a} 
  libgtkimageview0{a} libgweather-common{a} libgweather1{a} libisc41{a}
libisccc40{a} libisccfg40{a} liblwres40{a} libmozjs1d{a} 
  libmpfr1ldbl{a} libpoppler-glib3{a} libpoppler3{a} libpostproc51{a}
libpthread-stubs0{a} libpthread-stubs0-dev{a} libqt4-assistant{a} 
  libqt4-opengl{a} libqtgui4{a} libsoundtouch1c2{a} libspectre1{a}
libstdc++6-4.3-dev{a} libswscale0{a} libuim6{a} libxcb-xlib0{a} 
  libxcb-xlib0-dev{a} libxcb1-dev{a} libxerces-c28{a}
linux-image-2.6.25-2-686{a} openssh-blacklist{a}
openssh-blacklist-extra{a} 
  openssl-blacklist{a} python-cups{a} python-eggtrayicon{a}
python-gtkhtml2{a} python-gtkmozembed{a} python-qt4{a}
python-qt4-common{a} 
  system-config-printer{a} uim-qt3{a} vflib3{a} vinagre{a}
xserver-xorg-video-radeonhd{a} xulrunner-1.9{a}
xulrunner-1.9-gnome-support{a} 
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  cupsys-common{u} epiphany-extensions{a} gnome-cups-manager{a}
gnome-keyring-manager{u} kdenetwork-filesharing{u} ktalkd{u} 
  libavcodeccvs51{a} libavdevicecvs52{a} libavformatcvs52{a}
libavutilcvs49{a} libc-ares1{u} libgnomecupsui1.0-1c2a{u} 
  libpostproccvs51{a} libswscalecvs0{a} libuim5{a} libxdelta2{u} lisa{u}
perl-suid{u} talk{u} xdelta{u} xulrunner-gnome-support{u} 
  xutils-dev{u} ytalk{u} 
The following packages will be upgraded:
  abiword-gnome abiword-plugins-gnome acpi acpi-support
acpi-support-base acpid acroread acroread-data acroread-debian-files 
  acroread-escript acroread-plugins adduser alsaplayer-alsa
alsaplayer-common alsaplayer-jack alsaplayer-text anthy anthy-el
apache2 
  apache2-doc apache2-mpm-prefork apache2-utils apache2.2-common apcupsd
apcupsd-doc apt apt-doc apt-file apt-utils aptitude 
  aptitude-doc-en aqualung ara arj audacity avahi-autoipd avahi-daemon
avahi-utils awstats base-files bash beast bind9-host 
  binfmt-support binutils bittorrent blender busybox ca-certificates
capplets-data cdparanoia cdrecord cecilia cli-common cmap-adobe-cns1 
  cmap-adobe-gb1 cmap-adobe-japan1 console-common cpp cpp-4.2 cscope
csound csound-gui csound-utils cups-pdf cupsys cupsys-client 
  cupsys-dbg curl cvs darcs debconf debconf-i18n debhelper debian-el
debian-keyring debian-maintainers debianutils deskbar-applet 
  devscripts devscripts-el dhcp3-client dhcp3-common dictionaries-common
dnsutils doc-base doc-linux-text docbook-dsssl doxygen 
  doxygen-doc doxygen-gui dpkg dpkg-dev dpkg-dev-el dselect dvi2ps eject
ekiga emacs-goodies-el emacs-jabber eog epiphany-browser 
  epiphany-browser-data epiphany-gecko evince evolution evolution-common
evolution-data-server evolution-data-server-common 
  evolution-data-server-dbg evolution-dbg evolution-exchange
evolution-plugins fam file-roller flashplugin-nonfree flex fltk1.1-doc 
  fltk1.1-games fluid fluidsynth fontconfig fontconfig-config
foomatic-filters foomatic-filters-ppds foomatic-gui freeglut3
freeglut3-dbg 
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gcc-4.3-base gcj-4.3-base gdb gdk-imlib1 gdk-imlib11 gdm gedit 
  gedit-common genisoimage ghostscript ghostscript-x gij gij-4.3 gimp
gimp-data gimp-gnomevfs gimp-plugin-registry gimp-python git-arch 
  git-core git-doc git-gui git-svn gitk glibc-doc gnokii-common
gnome-about gnome-accessibility-themes gnome-app-install gnome-applets 
  gnome-applets-data gnome-cards-data gnome-control-center gnome-core
gnome-desktop-data gnome-desktop-environment gnome-games 
  gnome-games-data gnome-keyring gnome-mag gnome-menus gnome-office
gnome-orca gnome-panel gnome-panel-data gnome-session 
  gnome-settings-daemon gnome-system-monitor gnome-system-tools
gnome-terminal gnome-terminal-data gnome-themes gnome-u2ps 
  gnome-user-guide gnu-efi gnuchess gnuift gnuift-perl gnumeric
gnumeric-common gnupg gnustep-common gpgv graphviz grub grub-common gs 
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gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg gstreamer0.10-gnomevfs gstreamer0.10-plugins-base 
  gstreamer0.10-plugins-good gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly gstreamer0.10-x
gtk2-engines gtk2-engines-pixbuf gtkhtml3.14 guile-1.8 
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hpijs-ppds hplip hplip-data hplip-doc hplip-gui icedax ifupdown 
  imlib-base imlib11 initramfs-tools initscripts inkscape
installation-report iproute iptables iso-codes jackd k3b-data kamera
kcoloredit 
  kdegraphics-kfile-plugins kdvi kfax kfaxview kgamma kghostview
kiconedit klibc-utils klogd kmrml kolourpaint kooka kpdf kpovmodeler 
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libaa1 libaa1-dev libamrnb3 libamrwb3 libanthy0 
  libapache2-mod-php5 libapr1 libaprutil1 libasound2-plugins
libavahi-client-dev libavahi-client3 libavahi-common-data 
  libavahi-common-dev libavahi-common3 libavahi-compat-libdnssd1
libavahi-core5 libavahi-glib1 libavahi-gobject0 libavahi-qt3-1 
  libbrlapi0.5 libc6 libc6-amd64 libc6-dbg libc6-dev libc6-i686
libcairo2 libcairo2-dev libcamel1.2-11 libcapi20-3 libccid
libcdio-cdda0 
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libcompress-raw-zlib-perl libcompress-zlib-perl libcsound64-5.1 
  libcupsimage2 libcupsys2 libcupsys2-dev libcurl3 libcurl3-gnutls
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libgalago1.0-cil libgcc1 libgcj-bc libgcj-common libgcj9-0 
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libgeos-3.0.0 libgeos-c1 libgfortran3 libgii1 libgii1-target-x
libgimp2.0 
  libgksu2-0 libgmime-2.0-2a libgmime2.2-cil libgnokii3
libgnome-desktop-2 libgnome-keyring0 libgnome-mag2 libgnome-menu2 
  libgnome-window-settings1 libgnomevfs2-0 libgnomevfs2-0-dbg
libgnomevfs2-bin libgnomevfs2-common libgnomevfs2-extra libgnuift0c2a 
  libgnutls-dev libgnutls13 libgnutls26 libgnutlsxx13 libgomp1 libgpmg1
libgraphviz4 libgs8 libgstreamer-plugins-base0.10-0 libgtk2.0-0 
  libgtk2.0-0-dbg libgtk2.0-bin libgtk2.0-common libgtk2.0-dev
libgtkhtml3.14-19 libgtkhtml3.14-dbg libgtkspell0 libgtop2-7 
  libgtop2-common libhal-dev libhal-storage1 libhal1 libhighgui1
libhyphen0 libicu-dev libicu38 libidn11 libidn11-dev libilmbase-dev 
  libilmbase6 libio-compress-base-perl libio-compress-zlib-perl
libiso9660-5 libjack-dev libjack0 libjack0.100.0-0 libjack0.100.0-dev 
  libjasper1 libk3b3 libkadm55 libklibc libkpathsea4 libkrb5-dev
libkrb53 libkscan1 libldap-2.4-2 liblog-log4perl-perl liblrdf0 
  libmail-sendmail-perl libming0 libmozjs0d libmrml1c2a libmudflap0
libmxml1 libmysqlclient15off libnautilus-extension1 libncurses5 
  libncurses5-dev libncursesw5 libnetpbm10 libnspr4-0d libnss3-1d
libobjc2 libogg-dev libogg0 libole-storage-lite-perl liborbit2 
  libpam-gnome-keyring libpanel-applet2-0 libparams-validate-perl
libpcap0.8 libpci3 libpcsclite1 libpdf-create-perl libperl5.10 
  libpoppler-qt2 libpopplerkit0 libpopt-dev libpopt0 libpulse-browse0
libpulse-dev libpulse-mainloop-glib0 libpulse0 libqt4-core 
  libqt4-dbus libqt4-designer libqt4-gui libqt4-network
libqt4-qt3support libqt4-script libqt4-sql libqt4-sql-mysql libqt4-svg 
  libqt4-test libqt4-xml libqtcore4 libquicktime1 libraw1394-8 librpm4.4
libruby1.8 libsane libsane-extras libsasl2-2 libsasl2-modules 
  libsdl-mixer1.2 libsemanage1 libsepol1 libsmbclient libsnmp-base
libsnmp15 libsoap-lite-perl libsocket6-perl libsox-fmt-alsa 
  libsox-fmt-base libsox0 libspeex1 libspeexdsp1 libsplashy1
libsqlite3-0 libssl-dev libssl0.9.8 libstdc++6 libstdc++6-4.2-dev 
  libstreamanalyzer0 libstreams0 libstrigiqtdbusclient0 libsvga1
libsvga1-dev libtag1c2a libtagc0 libtdb1 libtiff-tools libtiff4 
  libtiff4-dev libtiffxx0c2 libtotem-plparser10 libtrackerclient0
libuim-data libvlc0 libvorbis-dev libvorbis0a libvorbisenc2 
  libvorbisfile3 libvte-common libvte9 libwine libwine-alsa libwine-capi
libwine-cms libwine-gl libwine-gphoto2 libwine-ldap 
  libwine-print libwine-sane libwine-twain libx11-6 libx11-data
libx11-dev libx86-1 libxalan110 libxau-dev libxau6 libxaw7
libxcb-shape0 
  libxcb-shm0 libxcb-xv0 libxcb1 libxcomposite-dev libxcomposite1
libxdamage-dev libxdamage1 libxdmcp-dev libxdmcp6 libxevie1 libxft-dev 
  libxft2 libxine1 libxine1-bin libxine1-console libxine1-ffmpeg
libxine1-gnome libxine1-misc-plugins libxine1-x libxinerama-dev 
  libxinerama1 libxrandr-dev libxrandr2 libxslt1-dev libxslt1.1
libxtrap6 libxul-common libxul0d libxxf86misc1 libxxf86vm1 
  libyaml-syck-perl lilypond lilypond-data lilypond-doc lintian
linux-image-2.6-686 linux-image-686 linux-libc-dev linuxdoc-tools 
  locales-all lpr make makedev manpages manpages-dev menu mime-support
ming-fonts-dejavu mixxx-data mkisofs mlterm mlterm-common 
  mlterm-im-scim mlterm-im-uim mlterm-tools monodoc monodoc-base
monodoc-manual mozilla-acroread mplayer mplayer-doc mutt myspell-fr-gut 
  mysql-admin mysql-client-5.0 mysql-common mysql-gui-tools-common
mysql-query-browser mysql-server-5.0 nautilus nautilus-data 
  ncurses-base ncurses-bin ncurses-term netpbm ntp ntpdate
odbc-postgresql openoffice.org openoffice.org-base
openoffice.org-base-core 
  openoffice.org-calc openoffice.org-common openoffice.org-core
openoffice.org-draw openoffice.org-evolution 
  openoffice.org-filter-binfilter openoffice.org-filter-mobiledev
openoffice.org-gcj openoffice.org-gnome openoffice.org-gtk 
  openoffice.org-help-en-us openoffice.org-impress
openoffice.org-java-common openoffice.org-l10n-de
openoffice.org-l10n-en-gb 
  openoffice.org-l10n-fr openoffice.org-math openoffice.org-officebean
openoffice.org-sdbc-postgresql openoffice.org-style-andromeda 
  openoffice.org-style-tango openoffice.org-writer openssh-client
openssh-server openssl pciutils pcscd perl perl-base perl-doc 
  perl-modules pgf php-pear php5 php5-cgi php5-cli php5-common php5-curl
php5-gd php5-mcrypt php5-mysql php5-pgsql pidgin-data pm-utils 
  po-debconf policycoreutils popularity-contest portmap postfix
postgresql postgresql-client postgresql-doc postgresql-doc-8.3
printconf 
  psgml psutils python-4suite-doc python-4suite-xml python-brlapi
python-central python-eyed3 python-foomatic python-glade2 python-gmenu 
  python-gnome2-extras python-gnome2-extras-doc python-gobject
python-gobject-dev python-gtk2 python-gtk2-dev python-gtk2-doc 
  python-gtkglext1 python-ipy python-pygame python-semanage
python-sepolgen python-support python-twisted python-twisted-bin 
  python-twisted-conch python-twisted-core python-twisted-lore
python-twisted-mail python-twisted-names python-twisted-news 
  python-twisted-web python-twisted-words python-uno python-urwid
python-vte python-xml python-zopeinterface python2.5 python2.5-dbg 
  python2.5-dev python2.5-examples python2.5-minimal qsynth qt4-qtconfig
qtparted quarry rar rdesktop reportbug rhythmbox rpm ruby1.8 
  samba samba-common samba-doc sane-utils sbcl sbcl-doc scons seahorse
shared-mime-info skkdic smbclient smbfs sox spamassassin spamc ssh 
  ssl-cert svgalibg1 swat sysklogd sysv-rc sysvinit sysvinit-utils
tasksel tasksel-data tesseract-ocr texlive-base-bin 
  texlive-base-bin-doc texlive-generic-extra texlive-humanities
texlive-humanities-doc texlive-latex-extra texlive-latex-extra-doc 
  texlive-math-extra texlive-pstricks texlive-pstricks-doc tightvnc-java
tightvncserver tkdiff tofrodos tomboy totem totem-common 
  totem-gstreamer totem-mozilla totem-plugins totem-xine transfig
ttf-arphic-ukai ttf-arphic-uming ttf-dejavu ttf-dejavu-core 
  ttf-dejavu-extra ttf-opensymbol ttf-sil-charis ttf-sil-doulos tzdata
ucf uim uim-anthy uim-applet-gnome uim-applet-kde uim-canna 
  uim-common uim-el uim-fep uim-gtk2.0 uim-latin uim-m17nlib uim-qt
uim-skk uim-utils uim-xim usbutils uswsusp vino vlc vlc-nox 
  vorbis-tools w3m wacom-tools wget windows-el wine wine-bin wine-utils
wodim wpasupplicant wvdial x-ttcidfont-conf x11-apps x11-common 
  x11-utils x11-xkb-utils x11-xserver-utils x11proto-fixes-dev
x11proto-kb-dev x11proto-xext-dev x11proto-xinerama-dev xbase-clients 
  xdg-utils xfonts-utils xgnokii xinit xkb-data xorg xserver-xorg
xserver-xorg-core xserver-xorg-input-all xserver-xorg-input-kbd 
  xserver-xorg-input-mouse xserver-xorg-input-synaptics
xserver-xorg-input-wacom xserver-xorg-video-all xserver-xorg-video-apm 
  xserver-xorg-video-ark xserver-xorg-video-chips
xserver-xorg-video-cirrus xserver-xorg-video-dummy
xserver-xorg-video-fbdev 
  xserver-xorg-video-glint xserver-xorg-video-i128
xserver-xorg-video-i740 xserver-xorg-video-i810
xserver-xorg-video-intel 
  xserver-xorg-video-intel-dbg xserver-xorg-video-neomagic
xserver-xorg-video-nv xserver-xorg-video-rendition
xserver-xorg-video-s3 
  xserver-xorg-video-s3virge xserver-xorg-video-savage
xserver-xorg-video-siliconmotion xserver-xorg-video-sis
xserver-xorg-video-sisusb 
  xserver-xorg-video-tdfx xserver-xorg-video-trident
xserver-xorg-video-tseng xserver-xorg-video-v4l
xserver-xorg-video-voodoo xsltproc 
  xtightvncviewer xtrans-dev xutils xvidcap yelp 
The following packages are RECOMMENDED but will NOT be installed:
  gnome-pilot-conduits libsmbios-bin ntfsprogs
openoffice.org-style-crystal psfontmgr python-beagle python-soappy xnest
xserver-xephyr 
878 packages upgraded, 68 newly installed, 23 to remove and 0 not
upgraded.
Need to get 775MB/1248MB of archives. After unpacking 218MB will be
used.
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
  system-tools-backends: Conflicts: liboobs-1-3 but 2.20.0-1 is
installed.
  k3b: Depends: k3b-data (= 1.0.4-8) but 1.0.5-1 is to be installed.
  kdenetwork: Depends: dcoprss (>= 4:3.5.9-2) but 4:3.5.9-1 is
installed.
              Depends: kdenetwork-kfile-plugins (>= 4:3.5.9-2) but
4:3.5.9-1 is installed.
              Depends: kdict (>= 4:3.5.9-2) but 4:3.5.9-1 is installed.
              Depends: kdnssd (>= 4:3.5.9-2) but 4:3.5.9-1 is installed.
              Depends: kget (>= 4:3.5.9-2) but 4:3.5.9-1 is installed.
              Depends: knewsticker (>= 4:3.5.9-2) but 4:3.5.9-1 is
installed.
              Depends: kopete (>= 4:3.5.9-2) but 4:3.5.9-1 is installed.
              Depends: kpf (>= 4:3.5.9-2) but 4:3.5.9-1 is installed.
              Depends: kppp (>= 4:3.5.9-2) but 4:3.5.9-1 is installed.
              Depends: krdc (>= 4:3.5.9-2) but 4:3.5.9-1 is installed.
              Depends: krfb (>= 4:3.5.9-2) but 4:3.5.9-1 is installed.
              Depends: ksirc (>= 4:3.5.9-2) but 4:3.5.9-1 is installed.
              Depends: kwifimanager (>= 4:3.5.9-2) but 4:3.5.9-1 is
installed.
              Depends: librss1 (>= 4:3.5.9-2) but 4:3.5.9-1 is
installed.
  scim-uim: Depends: libuim5 but it is not installable
  gnome: Depends: epiphany-extensions but it is not installable
Resolving dependencies...
The following actions will resolve these dependencies:

Remove the following packages:
kde
kdenetwork
scim-uim

Keep the following packages at their current version:
epiphany-extensions [2.22.1-2 (unstable, now)]
epiphany-gecko [2.22.1.1-1 (now)]
k3b-data [1.0.4-8 (now)]
system-tools-backends [2.4.2-1 (now)]

Upgrade the following packages:
xulrunner-gnome-support [1.8.1.14-2 (now) -> 1.8.1.14-3.1 (unstable)]

Score is 489

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epiphany-gecko recommends epiphany-extensions
-> Installing epiphany-extensions 2.22.1-2 (unstable, now)

epiphany-gecko conflicts with epiphany-extensions (< 2.22.1-3)
-> Installing epiphany-gecko 2.22.1.1-1 (now)

k3b depends upon k3b-data (= 1.0.4-8)
-> Installing k3b-data 1.0.4-8 (now)

kdenetwork depends upon dcoprss (>= 4:3.5.9-2)
-> Removing kdenetwork

kde depends upon kdenetwork (>= 4:3.5.5)
-> Removing kde

scim-uim depends upon libuim5
-> Removing scim-uim

system-tools-backends conflicts with liboobs-1-3
-> Installing system-tools-backends 2.4.2-1 (now)

epiphany-gecko depends upon xulrunner-gnome-support
-> Installing xulrunner-gnome-support 1.8.1.14-3.1 (unstable)


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