Frans, Cord, Martin, Pascal,
I'm writing the listmasters because reading debian-user has become
nearly unbearable for me (one of the sadly few DDs who bothers to read
our user lists) due to volume and offensiveness/repetativeness of
offtopic posts there. I've in the past threatened to leave -user
entirely, and I have in fact moved a lot of my attention to providing
support on forums.debian.net[4], but I would prefer that Debian
articulate a policy of not tolerating this kind of behavior.
Out of 2861 posts to -user this May, 407 (one in seven) have been labeled
OT.[1][2] Their content has included jems like these. Anyone who has spent a
while on the internet can probably fill in the surrounding mega-threads[5]
from these excerpts.
Michelle Konzack wrote:
> I pray for a real Nuke-Accident in the USA so they are wake up or fuck
> them self. I hope someone break into the american Nuklear-Defense-
> Network and activate some nuks for self-destruction.
Florian Kulzer wrote:
> What are, then, your definitions of "good people", "evil things" and
> "religion"? Which events in human history do you consider to be examples
> of good people doing evil things without religion being involved?
Ron Johnson wrote:
> You haven't read the Bible lately, have you?
judd@wadsworth.org wrote:
> This is a well known contradiction to biblical scholars. I don't
> remember the exact verses, but the gospels state in some places that the
> last supper was the passover meal and in other places state that
> passover was the day after the crucifiction. If you can wait until
> Mon., I'll look into it further. Or you can read the passages carefully
> yourself.
Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
> I believe that God inspired every word. Which is why the Bible is without
> error.
Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
> Well, since we are getting all scientific, the ratio of the diameter of
> a circle to its circumference is in fact 3, if all you have is one
> significant digit, which it appears is all we have from the text. Now,
> if it said "ten point zero zero cubits" and "five point zero zero
> cubits" and "thirty point zero zero cubits" then there might be a point
> in there.
Ron Johnson wrote:
> Suicide should be legal, but euthanasia is "someone else killing
> you", and I see that as a great slippery slope towards total
> government control over life.
Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
> I think you are way wrong here. The Republicans and Democrats are *so*
> strong that they are effectively in a stalemate. They are also so big
> that they have effectively consigned every potential third party
> contender to the sidelines.
Johannes Wiedersich wrote:
> You forget about the second bomb. It was dropped before the Japanese
> government had a chance to figure out what had happened in Hiroshima and
> before they had a chance to surrender in face of the first bomb.
Michelle Konzack wrote:
> They where NEVER sympathy for paletinians since the where supressed
> from the beginning. The JEW lobby was working very stong on this
> subject to supress all voices pro Palestine. The MOSSAD have even
> killed peoples (politics) in France to drop the voice.
Michael M. wrote:
> Not really. The phrase comes from the Declaration of Independence, not
> the Constitution. There's no explicit right to "the pursuit of
> happiness" in the Bill of Rights.
Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
> - There is no *scripture* that can be used in support of preventing
> interracial marriage. The words of the judge that you quoted are
> certainly *not* the words of God.
>
> - There *is* scripture that clearly illustrates that God hates
> homosexual relationships:
Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
> I can honestly say that I *hate* affirmative action. I hate the thought
> that when I walk in to a meeting or a room full of professionals that
> they might look at me and think "oh, he must be the token spic."
Note thae all this traffic occurred _after_ etch's release, at one of
the periods when more users than normal are presumably trying to get
help on the list.
To be clear, I am not suggesting a rigid adherence to on-topic
discussion. Offtopic discussions can help as social lubrication and can
help a community come together. But excessive OT posts can also poison
the signal/noise ratio, and bring a small clique of frequent OT posters
together to the detriment of the intended purpose of the list. I feel
that is what is happening here.
I am also clearly not the only one bothered by the volume of OT posts.
Other users keep complaining about these OT threads to the extent
that most large OT threads are accompnied by a "stop the OT posts"
thread. Yet the main offenders ignore this and continue to post as
they please:
John Burnett wrote:
> Roberto, Joe Hart and Celejar
>
> You three seem like really nice guys, but I am getting a
> little old and tired of the off topic posts. So here is my
> question.
>
> How do I blacklist a individual user on this mailing list.
Joe Hart wrote:
> Complaining about off topic threads just creates more off topic threads.
du.lists@dominok.net wrote:
> What's pissing me off is that there're a few * * * which treat this list as
> if they owned it.
Some offtopic posters have suggested simply filtering out OT posts[1],
but the fact is that this is a *user* list, which is read by users in
lots of situtations, from people like John Burnett above who have yet to
learn how to procmail, to users who can only follow it on the web
interface, to users who this is the first large mailing list they've
subscribed to. As I mentioned[2], there's also value in some small
quantity of OT posts, and sometimes users think their (technical) post
is OT even when it's really not. This makes filtering all OT posts
unappealing to me. The volume of OT posts and the fact that there's
something in there that will offend nearly anyone, is not a good face to
put on the Debian project, and should not be tolerated.
I feel that an appropriate policy for -user would be that when offtopic
threads exceed a few messages, the people posting to the thread should
take it to private email. If offtopic threads get much larger than that,
people who have posted large portions of the thread should be reminded
to take it to private mail. If they refuse to do so they should lose
their posting priveliges to the mailing list, either temporarily or
permanantly. I think that this policy should be applied retroactively to
at least the currently running OT threads unless the people posting to
them promise to stop dominating -user by volume.
I suspect that once we have a policy like this it will largely take care
of enforcing itself. Most of the problem is that OT posters don't have a
policy like this to consider, not that they're incorrigibles.
--
see shy jo
[1] Admittedly posters have been quite good at labeling OT threads as such[3];
I see only one thread of ~50 messages that was OT and not labled as such.
[2] Some fraction of the OT flagged messages really arn't, for example a
thread about screen was flagged as OT though half of it was on topic.
And it's debatable whether a thread about Dilbert and mail formatting, or
about Ubuntu is OT or not.
[3] And for that matter, it's impressive that the thread titled "how to
get beaver" is actually not OT. :-)
[4] FWIW, forums.debian.net has an offtopic section that actually seems
to be used appropriately, without bothering the technical discissions
in other sections.
[5] Here's the thread tree, for those who enjoy applying thread patterns:
0 May 04 Joe Hart ┬─>OT: Religion, Good and Evil (was Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?)
0 May 04 Ron Johnson │ └─>
0 May 05 Joe Hart │ └─>
0 May 05 Ron Johnson │ └─>
0 s May 05 Roberto C. Sánc │ └─>
0 May 06 Martin Marcher │ └─>
0 May 05 Ron Johnson │ └─>
0 May 04 Celejar └─>[OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?
0 May 07 Florian Kulzer ├─>
0 May 08 Celejar │ └─>
0 May 09 SB │ └─>
0 May 08 Ron Johnson │ └─>
0 May 09 SB │ └─>
0 May 09 Ron Johnson │ ├─>
0 May 09 Jochen Schulz │ │ ├─>
0 May 09 Ron Johnson │ │ │ ├─>
0 s May 09 Jochen Schulz │ │ │ │ ├─>
0 May 09 SB │ │ │ │ └─>
0 May 09 Ron Johnson │ │ │ │ ├─>
0 s May 09 Roberto C. Sánc │ │ │ │ ├─>
0 May 09 Ron Johnson │ │ │ │ │ ├─>
0 May 09 Florian Kulzer │ │ │ │ │ │ ├─>
0 s May 09 Roberto C. Sánc │ │ │ │ │ │ │ └─>
0 May 09 judd@wadsworth. │ │ │ │ │ │ │ ├─>
0 s May 09 Roberto C. Sánc │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ └─>
0 May 10 judd@wadsworth. │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ └─>
0 s May 10 Roberto C. Sánc │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ └─>
0 May 11 judd@wadsworth. │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ └─>
0 s May 11 Roberto C. Sánc │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ ├─>
0 May 15 yag │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ └─>
0 May 09 Florian Kulzer │ │ │ │ │ │ │ └─>
0 May 09 Ron Johnson │ │ │ │ │ │ │ ├─>Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd?party modules into deb system?
0 May 12 Florian Kulzer │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ └─>Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb syste
0 May 12 Ron Johnson │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ └─>Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd?party modules into deb sys
0 s May 12 Roberto C. Sánc │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ └─>
0 May 16 Chris Bannister │ │ │ │ │ │ │ └─>Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?
0 s May 09 Roberto C. Sánc │ │ │ │ │ │ └─>
0 May 09 Ron Johnson │ │ │ │ │ │ └─>
0 May 09 Michael Dominok │ │ │ │ │ │ ├─>
0 May 09 Miles Fidelman │ │ │ │ │ │ │ └─>Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd?party modules into deb system?
0 s May 09 Roberto C. Sánc │ │ │ │ │ │ └─>
0 May 09 Florian Kulzer │ │ │ │ │ │ ├─>
0 May 09 Miles Fidelman │ │ │ │ │ │ │ ├─>Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd?party modules into deb syste
0 s May 09 Roberto C. Sánc │ │ │ │ │ │ │ └─>Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb syste
0 May 11 Florian Kulzer │ │ │ │ │ │ │ └─>
0 s May 11 Roberto C. Sánc │ │ │ │ │ │ │ └─>
0 May 12 Florian Kulzer │ │ │ │ │ │ │ └─>
0 s May 11 Roberto C. Sánc │ │ │ │ │ │ │ └─>
0 May 12 Florian Kulzer │ │ │ │ │ │ │ └─>
0 May 09 Wackojacko │ │ │ │ │ │ ├─>
0 May 09 Amy Templeton │ │ │ │ │ │ │ └─>Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion
0 May 09 Andrew J. Barr │ │ │ │ │ │ │ ├─>
0 May 09 Amy Templeton │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ └─>
0 May 09 Ron Johnson │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ └─>
0 May 10 Wackojacko │ │ │ │ │ │ │ └─>
0 May 09 Ron Johnson │ │ │ │ │ │ └─>Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?
0 s May 09 Roberto C. Sánc │ │ │ │ │ │ └─>
0 May 09 Ron Johnson │ │ │ │ │ │ └─>
0 May 09 Joe Hart │ │ │ │ │ └─>Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?
0 s May 09 Roberto C. Sánc │ │ │ │ │ ├─>
0 s May 09 Andrei Popescu │ │ │ │ │ │ ├─>
0 s May 09 Roberto C. Sánc │ │ │ │ │ │ │ └─>
0 s May 09 Andrei Popescu │ │ │ │ │ │ │ ├─>
0 May 09 Ron Johnson │ │ │ │ │ │ │ └─>
0 May 09 Ron Johnson │ │ │ │ │ │ ├─>
0 s May 09 Roberto C. Sánc │ │ │ │ │ │ │ └─>
0 May 09 Ron Johnson │ │ │ │ │ │ │ ├─>
0 May 10 Celejar │ │ │ │ │ │ │ └─>
0 May 09 Ron Johnson │ │ │ │ │ │ ├─>
0 s May 09 Roberto C. Sánc │ │ │ │ │ │ │ └─>
0 May 09 Ron Johnson │ │ │ │ │ │ │ └─>
0 May 09 judd@wadsworth. │ │ │ │ │ │ ├─>
0 May 09 Raquel │ │ │ │ │ │ │ └─>
0 s May 09 Roberto C. Sánc │ │ │ │ │ │ │ ├─>
0 May 10 Joe Hart │ │ │ │ │ │ │ └─>
0 May 10 steef │ │ │ │ │ │ │ ├─>
0 N May 10 Ron Johnson │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ ├─>
0 May 10 steef │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ └─>
0 N May 10 Joe Hart │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ └─>
0 May 10 steef │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ └─>
0 May 10 Joe Hart │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ └─>
0 N May 10 steef │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ ├─>
0 s May 10 Roberto C. Sánc │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ ├─>
0 N May 11 Joe Hart │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ └─>
0 s May 11 Roberto C. Sánc │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ └─>
0 N May 11 Joe Hart │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ └─>
0 May 11 Ron Johnson │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ ├─>
0 May 11 Joe Hart │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ └─>
0 Ns May 11 Roberto C. Sánc │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ └─>
0 May 12 Joe Hart │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ └─>
0 N May 11 Celejar │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ ├─>
0 s May 11 Benjamin A'Lee │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ ├─>
0 N May 11 Ron Johnson │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ └─>
0 s May 11 Roberto C. Sánc │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ └─>
0 N May 11 Ron Johnson │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ ├─>
0 May 11 Miles Fidelman │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ ├─>
0 Ns May 11 Roberto C. Sánc │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ └─>
0 May 11 Ron Johnson │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ └─>
0 Ns May 11 Roberto C. Sánc │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ └─>
0 May 11 John Fleming │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ └─>
0 May 10 Miles Fidelman │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ ├─>
0 N May 10 Celejar │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ └─>
0 May 11 Joe Hart │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ └─>
0 N May 11 Celejar │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ └─>
0 May 12 Joe Hart │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ └─>
0 May 10 Ron Johnson │ │ │ │ │ │ │ ├─>
0 May 10 Joe Hart │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ └─>Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb sys
0 May 10 Ron Johnson │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ ├─>
0 May 10 Joe Hart │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ ├─>
0 May 10 Ron Johnson │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ └─>
0 May 11 Joe Hart │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ └─>
0 May 10 Celejar │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ └─>
0 May 10 Celejar │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ └─>
0 May 11 Joe Hart │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ └─>
0 May 11 Ron Johnson │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ ├─>
0 May 11 Joe Hart │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ └─>
0 May 11 Miles Fidelman │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ └─>
0 May 11 Ron Johnson │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ └─>
0 May 11 Celejar │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ └─>
0 May 12 Joe Hart │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ └─>
0 May 12 Ron Johnson │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ ├─>
0 May 13 Celejar │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ ├─>
0 May 15 Michael M. │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ └─>
0 May 15 Celejar │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ ├─>
0 May 15 Ron Johnson │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ └─>Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd?party module
0 May 16 Chris Bannister │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ └─>
0 May 10 judd@wadsworth. │ │ │ │ │ │ │ └─>Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb syste
0 s May 10 Andrei Popescu │ │ │ │ │ │ │ ├─>
0 May 16 Chris Bannister │ │ │ │ │ │ │ └─>
0 May 16 Ron Johnson │ │ │ │ │ │ │ └─>
0 May 11 Jabka Atu │ │ │ │ │ │ └─>Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?
0 May 09 Ron Johnson │ │ │ │ │ └─>Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?
0 s May 09 Roberto C. Sánc │ │ │ │ │ └─>
0 May 10 SB │ │ │ │ │ └─>
0 May 09 Ron Johnson │ │ │ │ │ └─>
0 May 09 John Fleming │ │ │ │ ├─>Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?
0 May 10 SB │ │ │ │ │ └─>
0 May 09 Ron Johnson │ │ │ │ │ └─>
0 May 16 Chris Bannister │ │ │ │ └─>
0 s May 09 Roberto C. Sánc │ │ │ └─>Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?
0 May 09 judd@wadsworth. │ │ │ ├─>
0 s May 09 Roberto C. Sánc │ │ │ │ └─>
0 May 09 Ron Johnson │ │ │ │ ├─>
0 May 10 judd@wadsworth. │ │ │ │ └─>
0 Ns May 10 Roberto C. Sánc │ │ │ │ └─>
0 May 11 judd@wadsworth. │ │ │ │ └─>
0 N May 11 Ron Johnson │ │ │ │ └─>
0 N May 16 Chris Bannister │ │ │ └─>
0 May 16 Ron Johnson │ │ │ └─>
0 May 09 SB │ │ ├─>Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?
0 N May 09 Ron Johnson │ │ │ ├─>
0 s May 09 Roberto C. Sánc │ │ │ └─>
0 N May 16 Chris Bannister │ │ └─>
0 May 16 Ron Johnson │ │ └─>
0 N May 09 Celejar │ └─>Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?
0 s May 09 Roberto C. Sánc │ └─>
0 May 09 Gnu_Raiz └*>Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?
0 s May 09 Andrei Popescu ├─>
0 N May 09 Anson Gardner │ └─>
0 s May 09 Roberto C. Sánc │ └─>
0 N May 09 Ron Johnson ├─>
0 May 10 Celejar └─>
0 May 08 Jostein Elvaker [OT] The record industry, RIAA and US law
0 May 08 Joe Hart ├─>
0 May 08 Celejar │ └─>
0 May 08 Joe Hart │ └─>
0 s May 08 Roberto C. Sánc │ ├─>
0 May 09 Joe Hart │ │ ├─>
0 May 09 Celejar │ │ │ └─>
0 May 10 Joe Hart │ │ │ └─>
0 May 09 Johannes Wieder │ │ └─>
0 s May 09 Roberto C. Sánc │ │ ├─>
0 May 09 Johannes Wieder │ │ │ ├─>
0 s May 18 Michelle Konzac │ │ │ └─>
0 May 09 Celejar │ │ └─>
0 May 09 Amy Templeton │ │ ├─>
0 May 10 Celejar │ │ │ └─>
0 May 10 Johannes Wieder │ │ │ └─>
0 May 10 Joe Hart │ │ │ └─>
0 May 10 Dennis G. Wicks │ │ │ ├─>
0 May 10 Celejar │ │ │ └─>
0 May 11 Joe Hart │ │ │ └─>
0 May 11 Celejar │ │ │ ├─>
0 May 11 Joe Hart │ │ │ │ └─>
0 May 11 Celejar │ │ │ │ ├─>Re: [OT] The record industry, RIAA and US law
0 May 12 Joe Hart │ │ │ │ │ └─>
0 May 13 Celejar │ │ │ │ │ ├─>
0 May 14 Joe Hart │ │ │ │ │ │ └─>
0 s May 14 Roberto C. Sánc │ │ │ │ │ │ └─>
0 May 14 John Burnett │ │ │ │ │ │ └─>
0 s May 14 Roberto C. Sánc │ │ │ │ │ │ ├─>
0 s May 14 Roberto C. Sánc │ │ │ │ │ │ │ └─>
0 N May 14 Celejar │ │ │ │ │ │ ├─>
0 May 14 Ron Johnson │ │ │ │ │ │ │ └─>How to blacklist (was Re: [OT] The record industry, RIAA and US law)
0 May 15 Joe Hart │ │ │ │ │ │ └─>Off Topic Messages: (was Re: [OT] The record industry, RIAA and US law)
0 s May 18 Michelle Konzac │ │ │ │ │ └─>
0 May 16 Chris Bannister │ │ │ │ └─>
0 May 16 Joe Hart │ │ │ │ ├─>
0 s May 16 Andrei Popescu │ │ │ │ ├─>
0 May 17 Michael M. │ │ │ │ └─>
0 May 17 Mike McCarty │ │ │ │ ├─>
0 s May 17 Roberto C. Sánc │ │ │ │ ├─>
0 May 17 Andrew J. Barr │ │ │ │ │ └─>
0 s May 17 Roberto C. Sánc │ │ │ │ │ └─>
0 May 17 Ron Johnson │ │ │ │ └─>
0 May 11 Brendan │ │ │ ├─>Re: [OT] The record industry, RIAA and US law
0 May 11 Joe Hart │ │ │ │ ├─>
0 May 11 Celejar │ │ │ │ │ └─>
0 s May 11 Roberto C. Sánc │ │ │ │ └─>
0 s May 18 Michelle Konzac │ │ │ └─>
0 s May 18 Greg Folkert │ │ │ ├─>
0 s May 18 Greg Folkert │ │ │ │ └─>
0 May 18 Cybe R. Wizard │ │ │ └─>
0 May 10 Johannes Wieder │ │ └─>Re: [OT] The record industry, RIAA and US law
0 s May 10 Roberto C. Sánc │ │ ├─>
0 May 10 Johannes Wieder │ │ │ └─>
0 May 10 Celejar │ │ └─>
0 May 10 Johannes Wieder │ │ └─>
0 May 09 Celejar │ ├─>Re: [OT] The record industry, RIAA and US law
0 May 10 Joe Hart │ │ └─>
0 s May 10 Roberto C. Sánc │ │ ├─>
0 May 10 Joe Hart │ │ │ └─>
0 May 10 Cybe R. Wizard │ │ │ └─>
0 May 11 Joe Hart │ │ │ └─>
0 May 11 Cybe R. Wizard │ │ │ └─>
0 May 10 Celejar │ │ └─>
0 s May 18 Michelle Konzac │ └─>
0 May 08 Michael Marsh ├─>Re: [OT] The record industry, RIAA and US law
0 May 08 Amy Templeton │ ├─>
0 May 08 Johannes Wieder │ ├─>
0 May 08 Michael Marsh │ │ ├─>
0 N May 16 Chris Bannister │ │ └─>
0 Ns May 08 Roberto C. Sánc │ └─>
0 May 08 Andrew Perrin │ └─>
0 May 08 Lubos Vrbka │ └─>
0 May 08 Ron Johnson │ ├─>
0 May 08 Joe Hart │ │ └─>
0 N May 08 Ron Johnson │ │ └─>
0 N May 09 Johannes Wieder │ └─>
0 May 08 Curt Howland └*>Re: [OT] The record industry, RIAA and US law
0 May 08 Joe Hart ├─>Re: [OT] The record industry, RIAA and US law
0 May 08 Ron Johnson │ ├─>
0 N May 08 Celejar │ ├─>
0 May 10 Joe Hart │ │ ├─>
0 N May 10 Celejar │ │ │ └─>
0 May 10 Joe Hart │ │ │ └─>
0 N May 10 Celejar │ │ │ └─>
0 May 10 Johannes Wieder │ │ └─>
0 Ns May 10 Roberto C. Sánc │ │ ├─>
0 May 10 Ron Johnson │ │ ├─>
0 N May 10 Celejar │ │ └─>
0 May 10 Johannes Wieder │ │ ├─>
0 N May 10 Joe Hart │ │ └─>
0 May 10 Celejar │ │ ├─>
0 N May 10 Johannes Wieder │ │ └─>
0 May 11 Joe Hart │ │ └─>
0 N May 09 Joe │ └─>
0 May 10 Joe Hart │ └─>
0 N May 10 Joe │ └─>
0 May 10 Joe Hart │ └─>
0 N May 10 H.S. │ ├─>
0 May 10 Celejar │ └─>
0 N May 11 Joe Hart │ └─>
0 May 11 Celejar │ └─>
0 Ns May 11 Roberto C. Sánc │ └─>
0 May 09 Michael M. └─>
0 N May 09 Miles Fidelman [Fwd: Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?]
0 s May 09 Greg Folkert OT: Can't we just drop all the OT stuff...
0 May 09 Joe Hart ├─>
0 May 09 du.lists@domino │ ├─>OT: Not _all_ the OT stuff
0 May 09 steve reilly │ └─>Re: OT: Can't we just drop all the OT stuff...
0 N May 09 Bruno Buys │ ├─>
0 s May 10 Andrei Popescu │ └─>
0 Ns May 10 Roberto C. Sánc │ └─>
0 May 10 Joe Hart │ └─>
0 Ns May 10 Roberto C. Sánc │ └─>
0 May 10 Joe Hart │ └─>
0 s May 09 Andrew Sackvill ├─>
0 N May 09 Bruno Buys │ ├─>
0 May 10 Hugo Vanwoerkom │ └─>
0 Ns May 10 Andrew Sackvill │ └─>
0 May 11 Joe Hart │ └─>
0 May 09 Eric d'Alibut ├─>
0 N May 10 Joe Hart │ └─>
0 May 10 Eric d'Alibut │ └─>
0 s May 10 Greg Folkert └─>
0 May 10 Eric d'Alibut └─>
0 May 11 Amy Templeton └─>[OT] Terminology [was: Affecting Institutional Change (Yeah Right)]
0 May 11 Celejar ├─>
0 May 11 Ron Johnson └─>
0 s May 11 Roberto C. Sánc └─>
0 May 11 Douglas Allan T └─>
0 s May 11 Roberto C. Sánc └─>
0 May 11 Douglas Allan T └─>
0 s May 11 Roberto C. Sánc ├─>
0 May 11 Douglas Allan T │ └─>
0 s May 11 Roberto C. Sánc │ └─>
0 May 11 Ron Johnson └─>
0 May 12 Amy Templeton └─>Re: [OT] Terminology
0 May 11 Miles Fidelman [Fwd: Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?]
0 May 11 Ron Johnson └─>
0 May 11 Miles Fidelman └─>
0 May 11 Ron Johnson └─>
0 May 11 Miles Fidelman └─>
0 May 11 Ron Johnson └─>
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