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Re: [OT] The record industry, RIAA and US law



On Tue, 08 May 2007 23:39:06 +0200
Joe Hart <j.hart@orange.nl> wrote:

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> Celejar wrote:
> > On Tue, 08 May 2007 19:08:11 +0200
> > Joe Hart <j.hart@orange.nl> wrote:
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> >> Jostein Elvaker Haande wrote:
> >>> I'm left speechless, honestly...
> >>>
> >>> http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070507-record-shops-used-cds-ihre-papieren-bitte.html
> >>>
> >> Ha! Makes me glad I don't live there.  Looks to me like another reason
> >> to download music from the Internet.  I really cannot understand how a
> >> government that claims "to be the leaders of the free world" can be so
> >> against the people.  No wonder so many people are starting to think
> >> poorly of the U.S. government.
> > 
> > Do you really think that 
> > a) that's why so many people think poorly of the US government?
> 
> That type of law is one reason.  Iraq and general foreign policy is another.

What I meant is that I think it's obvious that foreign policy (and, I
suspect, envy) is the real reason, not the type of legislation being
discussed. [I happen to largely agree with the foreign policy (although
not necessarily the implementation, and certainly not the PR / spin.)]

> > b) other governments have much less burdensome, anti-consumer
> > legislation? The EU is not known as a low profile, anti-regulation
> > outfit. Remember banana curve regs?
> 
> Oh yes, that is why I point out the future United States of Europe.
> Believe me, I don't agree with many thing the EU does.

But it isn't just the future; when has modern Europe been less
regulation happy than the US?

> >> We can hope that things like this will change when the Democrats get
> >> control.  Don't hold your breath.
> > 
> > Hope may spring eternal within the human breast, but why would we
> > expect that to be the case? Are the Dems less beholden to Hollywood and
> > the recording industry, ideologically more opposed to government
> > control of economic activity, or just plain more sensible and fair :).
> > [Just teasing; don't take this as a flame!] 
> 
> Yes, we must hope.  To remove hope would admit defeat.  Although I do

I'm all for hope; I hope that the *Republicans* see the light,
correct their errors and remain in power (I'm not such a Rep. partisan,
but I like them, on the whole, more than the Dems.)

> not have a lot of faith in any of the Democrats either.  As long as the
> political system does not change, I don't see a lot of progress being
> made.  There, you don't have enough strong political parties, here we
> have too many.

What sort of (practical and realistic) changes would you recommend?

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Thanks.

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