Jim Hyslop writes: > It seems to me the way to go, if you're willing to risk not having a > warranty, is to demand the refund from the manufacturers. If enough > people demand it, then Dell, HP et al will start getting tired of paying > twice - once to MS and once to the consumer. As far as I can tell they can comply with the terms of the contract by offering to allow you to return the machine for a full refund. -- John Hasler