On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 06:29:17PM -0800, Marc Shapiro wrote: > > 2) I never said a word about WWI or WWII. My comments we primarily > aimed at the "W" wars. The ones in which the U.S. unilaterally invaded > another country. Not wars which involved major portions of the world > that we were drawn in to. > You mean the wars which had overwhelming majority support from both houses of congress? You mean the wars of which Hillary Clinton said the following [0]: "I believe the facts that have brought us to this fateful vote are not in doubt. Saddam Hussein is a tyrant who has tortured and killed his own people, even his own family members, to maintain his iron grip on power. He used chemical weapons on Iraqi Kurds and on Iranians, killing over 20,000 people." ... "It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capability to wage biological and chemical warfare and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons. Should he succeed in that endeavor, he could alter the political and security landscape of the Middle East which, as we know all too well, affects American security." "This much is undisputed. The open questions are: What should we do about it? How, when, and with whom?" ... "This is a difficult vote. This is probably the hardest decision I have ever had to make. Any vote that may lead to war should be hard, but I cast it with conviction. Perhaps my decision is influenced by my 8 years of experience on the other end of Pennsylvania Avenue in the White House watching my husband deal with serious challenges to our Nation. I want this President, or any future President, to be in the strongest possible position to lead our country in the United Nations or in war. Secondly, I want to ensure that Saddam Hussein makes no mistake about our national unity and support for the President's efforts to wage America's war against terrorists and weapons of mass destruction. Thirdly, I want the men and women in our Armed Forces to know that if they should be called upon to act against Iraq our country will stand resolutely behind them." "My vote is not, however, a vote for any new doctrine of preemption or for unilateralism or for the arrogance of American power or purpose, all of which carry grave dangers for our Nation, the rule of international law, and the peace and security of people throughout the world." "Over 11 years have passed since the UN called on Saddam Hussein to rid himself of weapons of mass destruction as a condition of returning to the world community." "Time and time again, he has frustrated and denied these conditions. This matter cannot be left hanging forever with consequences we would all live to regret. War can yet be avoided, but our responsibility to global security and the integrity of United Nations resolutions protecting it cannot." "I urge the President to spare no effort to secure a clear, unambiguous demand by the United Nations for unlimited inspections." "Finally, on another personal note, I come to this decision from the perspective of a Senator from New York who has seen all too closely the consequences of last year's terrible attacks on our Nation. In balancing the risks of action versus inaction, I think New Yorkers, who have gone through the fires of hell, may be more attuned to the risk of not acting. I know I am." "So it is with conviction that I support this resolution as being in the best interests of our Nation. A vote for it is not a vote to rush to war; it is a vote that puts awesome responsibility in the hands of our President. And we say to him: Use these powers wisely and as a last resort. And it is a vote that says clearly to Saddam Hussein: This is your last chance; disarm or be disarmed." I just wanted to make sure that we were talking about the same war. Yup, it was *all* W going it alone with nobody's support. If you read all of Clinton's comments, you will see that she talks about the strategy toward Iraq changing from containment in to regime change in *1998*! That was during Bill Clinton's presidency. Why aren't people criticizing him for that policy? Oh wait, because he was a Democrat and can do no wrong. Get real. Regards, -Roberto [0] http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/F?r107:7:./temp/~r107NNc2Wd:e520452: -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://people.connexer.com/~roberto http://www.connexer.com
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