Freddy Freeloader wrote:
Marc Shapiro wrote:Ummm.... Like what? Our failed educational system? Are they going to plow more money into that so they can teach more things such as: Johnny will get his feelings hurt if he fails a grade because he didn't do the work, so we will pass him along even though he isn't gaining the skills he needs to compete in the real world? Or, how about the US is the worst country in the world? It has fought, gasp, wars, while failing to mention that we have poured money into rebuilding every country we have defeated rather than acting as the countries of Europe and exacting heavy tribute. You know, the very cause of WWII. Yeah, the Socialist governments of Western Europe are very peaceful, forgiving, and caring organizations. Just paragons of virtue. If we hadn't bailed them out of two, that's right, two world wars that they started, not a one of them, besides Germany would be speaking their native languages today. They would all be speaking German and not a Jew or Pole would be alive in Europe today. They would have all been murdered. And, if not for NATO, which we primarily funded and provided the military technology, they would probably not free today either. Only America's will, and ability to confront the Soviets militarily, kept them free. But, we're just the scum of the earth for being who we are. Ungrateful jerks. The only ones who have paid their WWII debts to us are the Finns. All the rest have just taken their freedom and thumbed their noses at us over the cost it took to get, and maintain, their own freedom....hendrik@topoi.pooq.com wrote:I am from the U.S., Hendrik, but I am with you on both counts. I could certainly do with a few less invasions of other countries and spending that time, effort, and money on improving things for the citizens of our own country.On Sun, Mar 04, 2007 at 07:04:13PM -0800, Freddy Freeloader wrote:If we do go socialistic this nation will have abandoned what made it great. I hope you do notice that the further we move toward socialismthe more our country has declined in both moral fiber and in respect bythe rest of the world. We became great because anyone had a chance towork and make it on their own, not by promising everyone that the statewould run every aspect of their lives. In fact, immigrants came herebecause they state didn't interfere with their lives.Being rom the rest of the world, I have been losing respect for the United States because it fails to ensure a minimum standard of living for its people, and sends out armies to interfere in how the rest of the world runs its lives.Oh, yeah. Go socialism. The government, and people, with a conscience. NOT!!!!That's not what you'll hear the socialist teachers in our schools teaching though. They teach the revisionist history that we were wrong to have gotten involved in any war we have ever entered, and are imperialistic, in spite of the fact that we have never gone to war to expand our borders, and that the vast majority of our wars have been fought on the behalf of others. Socialism just plain sucks.
I would like to point out a few things. 1) I never said ANYTHING about Socialism2) I never said a word about WWI or WWII. My comments we primarily aimed at the "W" wars. The ones in which the U.S. unilaterally invaded another country. Not wars which involved major portions of the world that we were drawn in to.
Please do not put words in my mouth. If you have problems with what OTHER people have said in this thread then please respond to THEIR postings, NOT mine.
-- Marc Shapiro mshapiro_42@yahoo.com