Re: [ltp] News Flash
On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 04:19:10PM -0600, Gnu_Raiz wrote:
> > From: Baz <bazciscor@gmail.com>
> > One day in gym class Baz wrote:
> > How is it off-topic? To you perhaps - get down off your high-horse.
>
> I have to agree with Jon on this one, the news post was off topic we have
> RSS feeds for instant news if we want it. That might even considered as
> spam, as lots of spam have titles like that. Besides last I checked Apple
> had more in common with FreeBSD then with Linux. Even if some Debian
> users care about Jobs, and DRM this really isn't the proper group. You
> might find other groups, or mailing lists more on topic.
>
> I mean if you really think about it I could talk about my dog because it
> is important to me as a Debian user. But that really doesn't mean its a
> good subject to bring up on a list such as this. If news is important
> you might want to consider IRC, that way you can get instant
> gratification, and don't have to wait for replys. Heck freenode even has
> a bunch of mac channels. I am sure they would be a more amenable then a
> bunch of diehard Linux fans.
>
> I would also suggest refraining from flametory remarks, as this will most
> likely bring a bunch of posts about the posting rules, top posting,
> followed by proper mua's etc ...
>
> As far as the notebook is concerned a person is probably not going to get
> a lot of good info from this list, especially when other lists are
> availabe. In fact I would almost consider this list as a last resort, and
> it would be counter productive as you would have lots of people go over
> the basics which might not be very useful if your looking for a good
> answer.
>
> I usually use a basic three step approach about finding a solution to a
> notebook problem, or problem in general. Since I am usually not a very
> patient person I can't be bothered to wait for a response from the list.
>
> 1. I define the problem from an error message, or narrow it down as much
> as possible to a package or device.
>
> 2. I then search Google, for my problem error, usually this will pop up a
> bunch of stuff, then I search Google groups if need be. If I can't find
> it there I search Debian.org with Google using site search, then if I
> still haven't found it I would site search my notebooks manufacture site
> using google site search. If I still haven't found a solution I usually
> pop on IRC, ask in the proper channel, as I said I am not a patient
> person.
>
> 3. If all else fails I post to the proper group, which most likely will
> show up in #2, and wait for a proper response. If that fails I post to
> Debian User, and Rant about how worthless Debian is until I get a
> response. I then install Ubuntu, and tell everyone how good it is until I
> have the exact same problem, and use the ubuntu forums instead.
>
> I usually find my solution at the beginning of #2, if it's a bug I then
> file a bug report. Also the end of part #3 was somewhat of a joke, I
> seem to see this more and more through! Seriously I am an impatient
> person and I usually find 95% of my solutions before I have to post. The
> other 5% I usually end up going to specific mailing lists, as my problems
> seem to be indepth and corner cases, I usually get a better response from
> them.
>
> Now I understand that a lot of people like hand holding, and want a
> confirmation after each little baby step, but as everyone knows a mailing
> list really isn't the place for hand holding. Heck you hand might fall
> off just waiting for a touch.
I've heard of OT, but this is ridiculous ;)
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David Jardine
"Running Debian GNU/Linux and
loving every minute of it." -L. von Sacher-M.(1835-1895)
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