Re: rhythmbox (& gstreamer)
On Sun, 09 Jul 2006 23:28:41 +0100
Adam Hardy <adam.ant@cyberspaceroad.com> wrote:
> Hans van Middendorp on 09/07/06 17:06, wrote:
> > On Sun, 09 Jul 2006 13:21:12 +0100
> > Adam Hardy <adam.ant@cyberspaceroad.com> wrote:
> >> Hans van Middendorp on 04/07/06 19:38, wrote:
> >>> On Tue, 04 Jul 2006 07:20:36 +0100
> >>> Adam Hardy <adam.ant@cyberspaceroad.com> wrote:
> >>>> Hans van Middendorp on 02/07/06 21:28, wrote:
> >>>>> On Sun, 02 Jul 2006 15:48:20 +0100
> >>>>> Adam Hardy <adam.ant@cyberspaceroad.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> Thomas Jollans on 02/07/06 15:05, wrote:
> >>>>>>> Adam Hardy wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Just did a general upgrade in etch and accepted all bugs and
> >>>>>>>> have problems now with rhythmbox, which won't play any MP3s
> >>>>>>>> now. it'll play OGG files, but not MP3s.
> >>>>>>>> Trying to fix it, I came across some directions for testing
> >>>>>>>> files with gstreamer, and I realise that rhythmbox considers
> >>>>>>>> itself a Gnome app, but I'm using KDE. I don't have gstreamer
> >>>>>>>> installer, it looks like a heavy-weight Gnome component,
> >>>>>>>> maybe even a daemon but I'm not sure. So to test, I should
> >>>>>>>> install gstreamer, but I'm not convinced I need gstreamer at
> >>>>>>>> all in KDE. But perhaps rhythmbox has changed now to work
> >>>>>>>> only under Gnome.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Anyone know what the situation is?
> >>>>>>> GStreamer is a library that is used heavily in Gnome, but does
> >>>>>>> not use a daemon by default. (unlike arts...) It does not hurt
> >>>>>>> to install gstreamer and gstreamer should not depend on
> >>>>>>> anything rhythmbox didn't depend on anyway... (like glib etc)
> >>>>>> Sorry Thomas, meant to send that to the list.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I installed gstreamer but I don't have the command
> >>>>>> 'basicgthread' which it seems I need to run from the cmd line
> >>>>>> to test play my mp3s.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I tried running rhythmbox under gnome and but that made no
> >>>>>> difference.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> So what is gstreamer or more to the point, how do I get
> >>>>>> rhythmbox to use it, if even that is what the MP3 problem is
> >>>>>> all about?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> I am not sure if Rhythmbox is using gstreamer0.8 or already
> >>>>> 0.10. If 0.8 it will play mp3 with gstreamer-mad. After
> >>>>> installing that run gst-register-0.8 in console as normal user.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If 0.10 i thimk you need gstreamer-0.10-fluendo-mp3. The gst
> >>>>> command is not necassary voor v0.10.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I no go, give quod-libet a try.
> >>>> quod-libet didn't work either:
> >>>>
> >>>> "Gstreamer encountered a general stream error."
> >>>>
> >>>> There is obviously something wrong with the config because
> >>>> gst-launch works OK.
> >>>>
> >>> When i was using Rhythmbox with Gnome 2.12 i had some problems to
> >>> get it running. In Gnome, as far as i can remember, i had to put
> >>> the sound(daemon or systen) on gstreamer, esd or alsa. Cannot
> >>> remenber which one. With Gnome 2.14 it is put on "automatic" by
> >>> default.
> >>>
> >>> Now, i am using Xfce4 with alsa. Rhythmbox and Quod Libet are both
> >>> working well.
> >>>
> >>> Maybe you could install a light windowmanger like Fluxbox or Icewm
> >>> and see if they will run from there. But be sure that no sound
> >>> daemons from KDE or Gnome are running.
> >>> I think the problem is somewhere in the soundsystem/daemons.
> >>
> >> I ran rhythmbox in fluxbox and got the following processes, which
> >> gives me a strong impression that gnome is still controlling
> >> something here:
> >>
> >> adam 24088 24069 28 13:12 ? 00:00:26 /usr/bin/rhythmbox
> >> adam 24091 1 0 13:12 ?
> >> 00:00:00 /usr/lib/libgconf2-4/gconfd-2 11 adam 24093 1 0
> >> 13:12 ?
> >> 00:00:00 /usr/lib/bonobo-activation/bonobo-activation-server
> >> --ac-activate --ior-output-fd=15 adam 24096 1 0
> >> 13:12 ? 00:00:00 /usr/lib/gnome-vfs-2.0/gnome-vfs-daemon
> >> --oaf-activate -iid=OAFIID:GNOME_VFS_Daemon_Factory --oaf-ior-fd=23
> >> adam 24123 1 0 13:13 ? 00:00:00 /usr/bin/rhythmbox
> >>
> >> What surprises me is that esd and artsd are both missing, yet under
> >> KDE I see them in the ps list all the time.
> > artsd is the soundaemon for kde. Is normal in kde. esd is the
> > soundaemon for gnome. Should not be used kde. Why it is running with
> > kde, i don't know.
> >> So what do I have to do here? How can I decouple gstreamer from
> >> gnome?
>
> > If you do so you rhythmbox and other apps depending of gstreamer
> > will not work.
>
> Alright then. But you know what? I just upgraded gstreamer - there
> were some updates of various modules from the last week or so - and
> now it works. If synaptic logged what it did, I could tell you which
> ones - but unfortunately I never figured out how to do that.
>
> One question remains open - do I still need gstreamer-0.8, or rather
> why is it seperate from 0.10?
there is a big difference between gst0.8 and 0.10
gst0.10 is divided in good, bad and ugly as base. O.8 are all seperate
modules.
Some apps still use 0.8, others aleady 0.10.
For the time beeing you have to install both.
> > Just curious, with fluxbox was rhythmbox working?
> Yes, for some songs. It still had this problem though.
>
> Thanks for the help,
>
> Adam
>
>
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