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Re: emacs without documentation nonsense



hendrik@topoi.pooq.com wrote:

Which devs are the ones responsible here: the Debian devs who put it there, or the upstream ones that presumably put non-free constraints on the documentatin license? Or is it all a big misunderstanding?

-- hendrik


Honestly, I think both sides are suffering from a bad case of pig-headedness. The fact is that both Debian and FSF have as a goal the provision of freely modifiable documentation to accompany free software. And both the DFSG and the GFDL provide this capability.

Clearly, the GFDL is not completely free. That's unfortunate, and it would be better if GNU could find another way to spread their message.

On the other hand, the use of invariant sections does not in any significant way limit the usefulness of the documentation. You can still modify GPL code and you can still document those changes with GFDL documents. If we were distributing those docs in paper-copy then maybe the forced inclusion of the GNU manifesto would represent a real impediment to further distribution, but when it just means a few more 1's and 0's sent down the line it is a trivial requirement to meet.

And, has been mentioned above, the impact on new Debian users of putting basic documentation in the non-free repository is something to consider for long term advocacy. Either they hunt down the documentation themselves, which is a hassle, or they enable the non-free repositories (in for a penny, in for a pound...), or they just go to another distro entirely. How does forcing users to sneak around the DFSG serve the purpose of the DFSG?

my two cents,

Tyle



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