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Re: debian-user: Firewire?



Oops, sorry, I thought I replied to the list.  Gmail has a funny way
of misleading you about where your reply is going, but I thought I had
it figured out.
I'd rather not have an extra piece of hardware lying around (hub) or
pay for it, if IP-over-FireWire is faster anyway.  It works great for
XP<->OSX, and I can leave my ethernet DSL connected.  If I used
ethernet, I'd have to buy a hub, and either buy a new card or reach
back and switch cables when I go from internet to LAN or vice versa.


On 7/14/06, Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@cox.net> wrote:
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Chuckk Hubbard wrote:
> On 7/14/06, Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@cox.net> wrote:
> Chuckk Hubbard wrote:
>> On 7/13/06, Kenward Vaughan <kay_jay@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>> On Thu, Jul 13, 2006 at 12:54:39PM -0400, Chuckk Hubbard wrote:
>>> > On 7/13/06, Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@cox.net> wrote:
>>> > A non-programmer.
>>> > I read that IP-over-FireWire can only be done in Linux by
> recompiling
>>> > the kernel.  Maybe this was wrong.
>
>>> What work has to be done depends on whether your dist. has it compiled
>>> in for the stock kernels.  Apparently Debian's have it.
>
>>> I am a non-programmer (OK, OK, APL in high-school, main frame 360 out
>>> of William and Mary...).  Pure hobbyist at the OS level.  I always
> roll
>>> my own kernel.  No programming involved, but it does require that you
>>> learn a chunk about your box's innards.
>
>>> Not hard to do, but requires patience and some time.  Kernel-package
>>> makes the installation easy.  For myself, grub is automatically
>>> updated, so the working older kernel is normally kept as a backup (as
>>> long as it's a version change, at least, like 2.6.15 to 2.6.16) in
> case
>>> what I've created turns into a monster on bootup.
>
>>> It's not a bad idea to have a rescue partition set up on an unused Gb
>>> chunk on your HD as well, along with a grub rescue floppy (CD?).
>
>>> There must be at least a few hundred primers out there on doing this.
>
>>> Try it sometime.  :)
>
>
>>> Kenward
>
>> I find it all interesting, and I would like to, but my major is
>> composition, and I deal with lots of deadlines as a musician and
>> student.  It's a fine line, how far I can go learning something so
>> specialized, when I run both XP and OSX, in either of which I can turn
>> out a good track in minimal time, spending most of my time writing the
>> music.  I've spend most of the last 2 days installing, learning,
>> reinstalling Linux, googling every possible combination of letters
>> from a QWERTY keyboard.
>> I am drawn towards stuff like this, and I have the mind for it, but
>> it's not what I'm "here for", it's a means to an end.  I do note that
>> you, and someone on the Pure Data list, mention both 2.6.15 and
>> 2.6.16, and the latest stable AGNULA release uses 2.6.12; if this
>> change is necessary, then I can justify it.  But it's easy for me to
>> get caught up in this stuff and forget that I'm supposed to be
>> composing over summer and preparing for a senior recital.
>
> What exactly do you need Firewire for?  I.e., which peripheral do
> you need to attach to your PC?
>
>> A Mac.  IP-over-FireWire allows me to run Pure Data on two different
>> processors, and divide the load as I see fit.

Ah, ok.

Why does it have to be IP-over-FireWire?  Why can't it be regular
IP-over-Ethernet?

> Also, you're on the AGNULA Users mailing list, right?
>
> http://www.agnula.org/lists/
>
>> Ah.  Thanks.
>
>
>> I also haven't yet seen the kind of audio software in Linux that I can
>> use on Windows and Mac.  I'm rooting for it, but other musicians not
>> as interested in getting inside their boxes are pretty dismissive
>> about it.
>
> Sadly, Linux isn't a great musician's OS.
>
>> Bummer.  You're the first Linux person who's told me that.  Maybe I
>> will just wipe it, and return the contents of that HD from where they
>> are taking up space on the Mac (unable to move them back until I get
>> FireWire).

Gotta be honest.  A business that *needs* QuickBooks Pro won't want
Linux (for that function) either.

- --
Ron Johnson, Jr.
Jefferson LA  USA

Is "common sense" really valid?
For example, it is "common sense" to white-power racists that
whites are superior to blacks, and that those with brown skins
are mud people.
However, that "common sense" is obviously wrong.
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