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Re: AMD 64 on HP laptop



On Fri, May 05, 2006 at 11:16:21PM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote:
> On Fri, May 05, 2006 at 13:09:55 -0700, Freddy Freeloader wrote:
> > I have a HP Pavilion dv8000z laptop with a 2.0 ghz AMD Turion, a gig of 
> > ram, and dual 80 gig hard drives. 
> > 
> > I have tried to install the AMD 64 version of Sarge twice on this 
> > machine.  Both times it has been so slow I've given up and installed the 
> > 32 bit version of Sarge.  I just did, or should say attempted, an 64 bit 
> > install today.  It took 55 minutes to do a base install from a 
> > netinstall cd, 10 minutes of which it spent on just loading the 
> > kernel-image package.  I can complete a default 32 bit Sarge desktop 
> > install in approximately the same amount of time. 
> > 
> > I started my install at 11:15 this morning, it is now 12:59, and the 
> > system is just now unpacking the downloads for a default desktop 
> > install.   That's 1 3/4 hours and it hasn't even begun setting up 
> > packages yet.  This install will probably take at least 3 hours to 
> > complete, if not more.
> > 
> > Anyone know why this is so slow?  I would have completed the same 
> > default desktop bit install an hour ago on this machine if I had 
> > installed the 32 bit version of Sarge.  Running 32 bit sarge or sid this 
> > laptop  is every bit the equal of my 32 bit desktop machines of similar 
> > cpu speed even though it only has 4200 rpm hard drives and my desktops 
> > have 7200 rpm hard drives. 
> > 
> > The 64 bit version of Debian makes this thing crawl.  It takes at least 
> > 8 - 10 seconds to open Firefox.  The 32 bit install opens Firefox in 
> > less than 1/2 the time. 
> 
> Maybe the 64 bit install has a problem with DMA; that can cost you a
> factor 10 in harddrive access times. You can check this with "hdparm".
> 
> -- 
> Regards,
>           Florian

I had trouble with extreme sloth of an AMD64 install; using an 
installer with a more recent kernel seemed to improve things.
I don't know what the problem was.  With the slow installer I never got 
as far as running the system, though.  God it was *slow*!

-- hendrik



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