Re: Xorg upgrade troubles
On Thursday 13 April 2006 13:36, Žáček Kryštof wrote:
> I agree, but only partially.
>
> look - STABLE is too outdated for desktop, TESTING is often broken more
> than unstable (mainly missing dependancies or completely missing apps (e.g.
> K3b was absent from testing for many months!)). SID appears to be the best
> choice for Debian desktop (regardless to what official policy states) and
> as such it is chosen by many.
my personal experiences habe led me to run a mixed testing/unstable system
pinning isolated GUI stuff (KDE mostly) to unstable but everything else from
testing. That gets around things like the k3b problem in testing being
broken for a long time. There are some howtos out there on how to do this.
(BTW k3b still seems to be broken, k3bsetup gave a blank screen during a
recent install attempt.... Very frustrating)
also, for people who depend on their computer for doing important work I would
suggest: just DON'T UPGRADE a system that is working and upon which you
depend unless you absolutetly need some new functionality from the uprade.
And if you do upgrade, cover yourself for eventual breakage for example by
making an image of your partition which can be restored in less than 20
minutes (partimage to USB).
Chris
>
> Yes, I am ready do deal with minor breakages. However, X not starting, KDE
> ot starting ... this is not a minor problem but a fatal show stopper. This
> proves lack of software quality testing in the Debian release model. In my
> opinion the released Xorg 7 package belongs still to experimental.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Joey Hess [mailto:joeyh@debian.org]
> > Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 12:41 PM
> > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> > Subject: Re: Xorg upgrade troubles
> >
> > Žáček Kryštof wrote:
> > > Well, this transition could have been prepared better -
> >
> > testing stuff
> >
> > > in such state on human beings is not ethical.
> >
> > People running unstable are expected and required to be able to do the
> > following:
> >
> > * Deal with minor breakages.
> > * Report bug reports when things break.
> >
> > This is well documented an there is nothing unethical about it.
> >
> > > X did not start
> > > ==========
> > > The symbolic link /etc/X11/X was wrongly set to /bin/true Should be
> > > set to /usr/bin/X11/Xorg
> > >
> > > KDM did not start
> > > =============
> > > /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc contains wrong line:
> > > ServerCmd=/usr/X11R6/bin/X ... there is no such file
> > >
> > > should be
> > >
> > > ServerCmd=/usr/bin/X11/Xorg or better /etc/X11/X
> > >
> > > Keyboard layout tool error
> > > ==========================
> > > kxkb not working anymore
> > >
> > > I had to install xkb-data
> > >
> > > Some special keys do not work anymore
> > > =====================================
> > > Cannot switch to virtual consoles with Alt-Ctrl-F1
> > >
> > > Dead keys (ˇ) do not work anymore (e.g. for characters like Ž)
> >
> > Please use reportbug to file bug reports on the appropriate
> > packages for these problems.
> >
> > --
> > see shy jo
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C. Hurschler
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